Re: [PATCH net-next v2 04/12] net-timestamp: add static key to control the whole bpf extension

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On 10/20/24 2:51 PM, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
Jason Xing wrote:
From: Jason Xing <kernelxing@xxxxxxxxxxx>

Willem suggested that we use a static key to control. The advantage
is that we will not affect the existing applications at all if we
don't load BPF program.

In this patch, except the static key, I also add one logic that is
used to test if the socket has enabled its tsflags in order to
support bpf logic to allow both cases to happen at the same time.
Or else, the skb carring related timestamp flag doesn't know which
way of printing is desirable.

One thing important is this patch allows print from both applications
and bpf program at the same time. Now we have three kinds of print:
1) only BPF program prints
2) only application program prints
3) both can print without side effect

Signed-off-by: Jason Xing <kernelxing@xxxxxxxxxxx>

Getting back to this thread. It is long, instead of responding to
multiple messages, let me combine them in a single response.


* On future extensions:

+1 that the UDP case, and datagrams more broadly, must have a clear
development path, before we can merge TCP.

Similarly, hardware timestamps need not be supported from the start,
but must clearly be supportable.


* On queueing packets to userspace:

the current behavior is to just queue to the sk_error_queue as long
as there is "SOF_TIMESTAMPING_TX_*" set in the skb's tx_flags and it
is regardless of the sk_tsflags. "

Totally correct. SOF_TIMESTAMPING_SOFTWARE is a report flag while
SOF_TIMESTAMPING_TX_* are generation flags. Without former, users can
read the skb from the errqueue but are not able to parse the
timestamps

Before queuing a packet to userspace on the error queue, the relevant
reporting flag is always tested. sock_recv_timestamp has:

         /*
          * generate control messages if
          * - receive time stamping in software requested
          * - software time stamp available and wanted
          * - hardware time stamps available and wanted
          */
         if (sock_flag(sk, SOCK_RCVTSTAMP) ||
             (tsflags & SOF_TIMESTAMPING_RX_SOFTWARE) ||
             (kt && tsflags & SOF_TIMESTAMPING_SOFTWARE) ||
             (hwtstamps->hwtstamp &&
              (tsflags & SOF_TIMESTAMPING_RAW_HARDWARE)))
                 __sock_recv_timestamp(msg, sk, skb);

Otherwise applications could get error messages queued, and
epoll/poll/select would unexpectedly behave differently.

I just tried the following diff to remove setsockopt from txtimestamp.c and run "./txtimestamp -6 -c 1 -C -N -L ::1". It is getting the skb from the error queue with only cmsg flag. I did a printk in __skb_tstamp_tx to ensure the
sk->sk_tsflags is empty also.

diff --git i/tools/testing/selftests/net/txtimestamp.c w/tools/testing/selftests/net/txtimestamp.c
index dae91eb97d69..5d9d2773b076 100644
--- i/tools/testing/selftests/net/txtimestamp.c
+++ w/tools/testing/selftests/net/txtimestamp.c
@@ -319,6 +319,8 @@ static void __recv_errmsg_cmsg(struct msghdr *msg, int payload_len)
 	for (cm = CMSG_FIRSTHDR(msg);
 	     cm && cm->cmsg_len;
 	     cm = CMSG_NXTHDR(msg, cm)) {
+		printf("cm->cmsg_level %d cm->cmsg_type %d\n",
+		       cm->cmsg_level, cm->cmsg_type);
 		if (cm->cmsg_level == SOL_SOCKET &&
 		    cm->cmsg_type == SCM_TIMESTAMPING) {
 			tss = (void *) CMSG_DATA(cm);
@@ -362,7 +364,7 @@ static void __recv_errmsg_cmsg(struct msghdr *msg, int payload_len)
 	if (batch > 1) {
 		fprintf(stderr, "batched %d timestamps\n", batch);
 	} else if (!batch) {
-		fprintf(stderr, "Failed to report timestamps\n");
+		fprintf(stderr, "Failed to report timestamps. payload_len %d\n", payload_len);
 		test_failed = true;
 	}
 }
@@ -578,9 +580,12 @@ static void do_test(int family, unsigned int report_opt)
 	if (cfg_loop_nodata)
 		sock_opt |= SOF_TIMESTAMPING_OPT_TSONLY;

+	(void)sock_opt;
+/*
 	if (setsockopt(fd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_TIMESTAMPING,
 		       (char *) &sock_opt, sizeof(sock_opt)))
 		error(1, 0, "setsockopt timestamping");
+*/

 	for (i = 0; i < cfg_num_pkts; i++) {
 		memset(&msg, 0, sizeof(msg));

SOF_TIMESTAMPING_SOFTWARE is only used in traditional SO_TIMESTAMPING
features including cmsg mode. But it will not be used in bpf mode.

For simplicity, the two uses of the API are best kept identical. If
there is a technical reason why BPF has to diverge from established
behavior, this needs to be explicitly called out in the commit
message.

SOF_TIMESTAMPING_OPT_TSONLY will not be supported. The orig_skb can always be passed directly to the bpf if needed without extra cost. The same probably goes for SOF_TIMESTAMPING_OPT_PKTINFO. SOF_TIMESTAMPING_SOFTWARE does not seem to be useful either. I think only a subset of SOF_* will be supported, probably only the TX_* and RX_* ones.


Also, if you want to extend the API for BPF in the future, good to
call this out now and ideally extensions will apply to both, to
maintain a uniform API.


* On extra measurement points, at sendmsg or tcp_write_xmit:

The first is interesting. For application timestamping, this was
never needed, as the application can just call clock_gettime before
sendmsg.

In general, additional measurement points are not only useful if the
interval between is not constant. So far, we have seen no need for
any additional points.


* On skb state:

For now, is there thing we can explore to share in the skb_shared_info?

skb_shinfo space is at a premium. I don't think we can justify two
extra fields just for this use case.

My initial thought is just to reuse these fields in skb. It can work
without interfering one another.

I'm skeptical that two methods can work at the same time. If they are
started at different times, their sk_tskey will be different, for one.

For the skb's tx_flags, Jason seems to be able to figure out by only using the new sk_tsflags_bpf. In the worst case, it seems there is still one bit left in tx_flags.

I am also not very positive on the skb's tskey for now.

Willem, I recalled I had tried to reuse the tx_flags and hwtstamp when keeping the delivery time in skb->tstamp for a skb redirecting from egress to ingress. I think that approach was stalled because the tx_flags could be changed by the netdevice like "skb_shinfo(skb)->tx_flags |= SKBTX_IN_PROGRESS". How about the skb_shinfo(skb)->hwtstamps? At least for the TX path, it should not be changed until the netdevice calling skb_tstamp_tx() to report the hwtstamp? or the clone in the tcp stack will still break things if the hwtstamps is reused for other purpose?


There may be workarounds. Maybe BPF can store its state in some BPF
specific field, indeed. Or perhaps it can store per-sk shadow state
that resolves the conflict. For instance, the offset between sk_tskey
and bpf_tskey.

I have also been proposing to explore other way for the key since bpf has direct access to the skb (also the sk, bpf prog can store data in the sk).

The bpf prog can learn what is the seq_no of the egress-ing skb. When the ack comes back, it can also learn the ack seq no. Does it help? It will be harder to use because it probably needs to store this info in the bpf map (or in the bpf sk storage). However, if it needs to learn the timestamp at the tcp_sendmsg/tcp_transmit_skb/tcp_write_xmit, this timestamp has to be stored somewhere also. Either in a bpf map or in a bpf sk storage.

SEC("cgroup/setsockopt") prog can also enforce the user space setsockopt. e.g. it can add SOF_TIMESTAMPING_OPT_ID_TCP when user space only use SOF_TIMESTAMPING_OPT_ID.




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