Re: [PATCH net-next v16 00/15] Introducing P4TC (series 1)

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On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 1:53 PM Jakub Kicinski <kuba@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 11:53:28 -0400 Jamal Hadi Salim wrote:
> > > For me it's very much not "about P4". I don't care what DSL user prefers
> > > and whether the device the offloads targets is built by a P4 vendor.
> >
> > I think it is an important detail though.
> > You wouldnt say PSP shouldnt start small by first taking care of TLS
> > or IPSec because it is not the target.
>
> I really don't see any parallel with PSP. And it _is_ small, 4kLoC.
>
> First you complain that community is "political" and doesn't give you
> technical feedback, and then when you get technical feedback you attack
> the work of the maintainer helping you.
>

You made a proposal saying it was a "start small" approach. I
responded saying that it doesnt really cover our requirements and
pointed to a sample h/w to show why. I only used PSP to illustrate why
"start small" doesnt work for what we are targeting. I was not in any
way attacking your work.

We are not trying to cover the whole world of offloads. It is a very
specific niche -P4- which uses the existing tc model because that's
how match-action tables are offloaded today. The actions and tables
are dynamically defined by the users P4 program whereas in flower they
are hardcoded in the kernel. I dont see any other way to achieve these
goals with flower or other existing approaches.  Flower for example
could be written as a single P4 program and the goal here is to
support a wider range of programs without making kernel changes.

cheers,
jamal





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