Re: [PATCH v4 bpf-next 00/11] bpf: support resilient split BTF

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On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 12:08 PM Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2024-05-21 at 11:54 -0700, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > I'm probably leaning towards not doing automatic relocations in
> > btf__parse(), tbh. Distilled BTF is a rather special kernel-specific
> > feature, if we need to teach resolve_btfids and bpftool to do
> > something extra for that case (i.e., call another API for relocation,
> > if necessary), then it's fine, doesn't seems like a problem.
>
> My point is that with current implementation it does not even make
> sense to call btf__parse() for an ELF with distilled base,
> because it would fail.

True (unless application loaded .BTF.base as stand-alone BTF first,
but it's pretty advanced scenario)

>
> And selecting BTF encoding based on a few retries seems like a kludge
> if there is a simple way to check if distilled base has to be used
> (presence of the .BTF.base section).

agreed

>
> > Much worse is having to do some workarounds to prevent an API from
> > doing some undesired extra steps (like in resolve_btfids not wanting a
> > relocation). Orthogonality FTW, IMO.
>
> For resolve_btfids it is a bit different, imo.
> It does want some base: for in-tree modules it wants vmlinux,
> for out-of-tree it wants distilled base.
> So it has to be adjusted either way.

Ok, so I read some more code and re-read your discussion w/ Alan. I
agree with your proposal, I think it's logical (even if relocation
does feel a bit "extra" for "parse"-like API, but ok, whatever).

I see what you are saying about resolve_btfids needing the changes
either way, and that's true. But instead of adding (unnecessary, IMO)
-R argument, resolve_btfids should be able to detect .BTF.base section
presence and infer that this is distilled BTF case, and thus proceed
with ignoring `-B <vmlinux>` argument (we can even complain that `-B
vmlinux` is specified if distilled BTF is used, not sure.





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