Re: [PATCH bpf-next v4 1/3] bpf: Relax tracing prog recursive attach rules

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On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 11:56 AM Dmitrii Dolgov <9erthalion6@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Currently, it's not allowed to attach an fentry/fexit prog to another
> one of the same type. At the same time it's not uncommon to see a
> tracing program with lots of logic in use, and the attachment limitation
> prevents usage of fentry/fexit for performance analysis (e.g. with
> "bpftool prog profile" command) in this case. An example could be
> falcosecurity libs project that uses tp_btf tracing programs.
>
> Following the corresponding discussion [1], the reason for that is to
> avoid tracing progs call cycles without introducing more complex
> solutions. Relax "no same type" requirement to "no progs that are
> already an attach target themselves" for the tracing type. In this way
> only a standalone tracing program (without any other progs attached to
> it) could be attached to another one, and no cycle could be formed. To
> implement, add a new field into bpf_prog_aux to track the number of
> attachments to the target prog.
>
> As a side effect of this change alone, one could create an unbounded
> chain of tracing progs attached to each other. Similar issues between
> fentry/fexit and extend progs are addressed via forbidding certain
> combinations that could lead to similar chains. Introduce an
> attach_depth field to limit the attachment chain, and display it in
> bpftool.
>
> Note, that currently, due to various limitations, it's actually not
> possible to form such an attachment cycle the original implementation
> was prohibiting. It seems that the idea was to make this part robust
> even in the view of potential future changes.
>
> [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/20191108064039.2041889-16-ast@xxxxxxxxxx/
>
> Signed-off-by: Dmitrii Dolgov <9erthalion6@xxxxxxxxx>

We discussed this in earlier version:

"
> If prog B attached to prog A, and prog C attached to prog B, then we
> detach B. At this point, can we re-attach B to A?

Nope, with the proposed changes it still wouldn't be possible to
reattach B to A (if we're talking about tracing progs of course),
because this time B is an attachment target on its own.
"

I think this can be problematic for some users. Basically, doing
profiling on prog B can cause it to not work (cannot re-attach).

Given it is not possible to create a call circle, shall we remove
this issue?

Thanks,
Song





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