Re: [RFC PATCH -mm 0/4] mm, security, bpf: Fine-grained control over memory policy adjustments with lsm bpf

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On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 4:50 PM Ondrej Mosnacek <omosnace@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 4:17 AM Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 12:45 AM Casey Schaufler <casey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 11/11/2023 11:34 PM, Yafang Shao wrote:
> > > > Background
> > > > ==========
> > > >
> > > > In our containerized environment, we've identified unexpected OOM events
> > > > where the OOM-killer terminates tasks despite having ample free memory.
> > > > This anomaly is traced back to tasks within a container using mbind(2) to
> > > > bind memory to a specific NUMA node. When the allocated memory on this node
> > > > is exhausted, the OOM-killer, prioritizing tasks based on oom_score,
> > > > indiscriminately kills tasks. This becomes more critical with guaranteed
> > > > tasks (oom_score_adj: -998) aggravating the issue.
> > >
> > > Is there some reason why you can't fix the callers of mbind(2)?
> > > This looks like an user space configuration error rather than a
> > > system security issue.
> >
> > It appears my initial description may have caused confusion. In this
> > scenario, the caller is an unprivileged user lacking any capabilities.
> > While a privileged user, such as root, experiencing this issue might
> > indicate a user space configuration error, the concerning aspect is
> > the potential for an unprivileged user to disrupt the system easily.
> > If this is perceived as a misconfiguration, the question arises: What
> > is the correct configuration to prevent an unprivileged user from
> > utilizing mbind(2)?"
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > The selected victim might not have allocated memory on the same NUMA node,
> > > > rendering the killing ineffective. This patch aims to address this by
> > > > disabling MPOL_BIND in container environments.
> > > >
> > > > In the container environment, our aim is to consolidate memory resource
> > > > control under the management of kubelet. If users express a preference for
> > > > binding their memory to a specific NUMA node, we encourage the adoption of
> > > > a standardized approach. Specifically, we recommend configuring this memory
> > > > policy through kubelet using cpuset.mems in the cpuset controller, rather
> > > > than individual users setting it autonomously. This centralized approach
> > > > ensures that NUMA nodes are globally managed through kubelet, promoting
> > > > consistency and facilitating streamlined administration of memory resources
> > > > across the entire containerized environment.
> > >
> > > Changing system behavior for a single use case doesn't seem prudent.
> > > You're introducing a bunch of kernel code to avoid fixing a broken
> > > user space configuration.
> >
> > Currently, there is no mechanism in place to proactively prevent an
> > unprivileged user from utilizing mbind(2). The approach adopted is to
> > monitor mbind(2) through a BPF program and trigger an alert if its
> > usage is detected. However, beyond this monitoring, the only recourse
> > is to verbally communicate with the user, advising against the use of
> > mbind(2). As a result, users will question why mbind(2) isn't outright
> > prohibited in the first place.
>
> Is there a reason why you can't use syscall filtering via seccomp(2)?
> AFAIK, all the mainstream container tooling already has support for
> specifying seccomp filters for containers.

seccomp is relatively heavyweight, making it less suitable for
enabling in our production environment. In contrast, LSM offer a more
lightweight and flexible alternative. Moreover, the act of binding to
a specific NUMA node appears akin to a privileged operation,
warranting the consideration of a dedicated LSM hook.

-- 
Regards
Yafang





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