Re: [RFC bpf-next v0 0/7] Unifying signed and unsigned min/max tracking

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On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 11:45:22AM +0800, Shung-Hsi Yu wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 11:38:09AM -0800, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 9:46 PM Shung-Hsi Yu <shung-hsi.yu@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > This patchset is a proof of concept for previously discussed concept[1]
> > > of unifying smin/smax with umin/uax for both the 32-bit and 64-bit
> > > range[2] within bpf_reg_state. This will allow the verifier to track
> > > both signed and unsiged ranges using just two u32 (for 32-bit range) or
> > > u64 (for 64-bit range), instead four as we currently do.
> > >
> > > The size reduction we gain from this probably isn't very significant.
> > > The main benefit is in lowering of code _complexity_. The verifier
> > > currently employs 5 value tracking mechanisms, two for 64-bit range, two
> > > for 32-bit range, and one tnum that tracks individual bits. Exchanging
> > > knowledge between all the bound tracking mechanisms requires a
> > > (theoretical) 20-way synchronization[3]; with signed and unsigned
> > > unification the verifier will only need 3 value tracking mechanism,
> > > cutting this down to a 6-way synchronization.
> > >
> > > The unification is possible from a theoretical standpoint[4] and there
> > > exists implementation[5]. The challenge lies in implementing it inside
> > > the verifier and making sure it fits well with all the logic we have in
> > > place.
> > >
> > > To lower the difficulty, the unified min/max tracking is implemented in
> > > isolation, and have it correctness checked using model checking. The
> > > model checking code can be found in this patchset as well, but is not
> > > meant to be merged since a better method already exists[6].
> > >
> > > So far I've managed to implement add/sub/mul operations for unified
> > > min/max tracking, the next steps are:
> > > - implement operation that can be used gain knowledge from conditional
> > >   jump, e.g wrange32_intersect, wrange32_diff
> > > - implement wrange32_from_min_max and wrange32_to_min_max so we can
> > >   check whether this PoC works using current selftests
> > > - implement operations for wrange64, the 64-bit counterpart of wrange32
> > > - come up with how to exchange knowledge between wrange64 and wrange32
> > >   (this is likely the most difficult part)
> > > - think about how to integrate this work in a manageable manner
> > 
> > Thanks for taking a stab at it.
> > The biggest question is how to integrate it without breaking anything.
> > I suspect you might need to implement all alu and branch logic
> > just to be able to run the tests.
> 
> Once the wrange32_{to,from}_min_max() helpers in patch 7 is implemented, I
> should be able to swap out individual alu operation while keeping
> bpf_reg_state untouched. E.g. for addition in 32-bit
> 
>   static void scalar32_min_max_add(struct bpf_reg_state *dst_reg,
>                                    struct bpf_reg_state *src_reg)
>   {
>       struct wrange32 a = wrange32_from_min_max(dst_reg->smin, dst_reg->smax,
>                                                 dst_reg->umin, dst_reg->umax);
>       struct wrange32 b = wrange32_from_min_max(src_reg->smin, src_reg->smax,
>                                                 src_reg->umin, src_reg->umax);
>       
>       wrange32_to_min_max(wrange32_add(a, b), &dst_reg->smin, &dst_reg->smax,
>                           &dst_reg->umin, &dst_reg->umax);
>   }
> 
> and get current tests to run on top of the new algorithm. This won't cover
> every aspect, but should be enough as a first taste on how well (or unwell)
> the integration will be.
> 
> These helpers also can help to create finer intermediate steps for smoother
> integration; something that's added in the beginning to aid the transition,
> but removed after the transition is done.
> 
> > It's difficult to see a path for partial/incremental addition.
> > The concern is that at the end this approach might hit an issue
> > which will make it infeasible.
> 
> Agree. While the helpers above can aid with integration, I do not see a safe
> path for partial addition. At least not before everything until
> reg_bound_sync() proofs to work should it be considered.
> Still a long way to go.

Meant to say "everything until, and including, reg_bound_sync() are
proofed to work", since it is likely the hardest part.

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