On 06/14/2019 02:55 AM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote: > On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 5:52 PM Matt Mullins <mmullins@xxxxxx> wrote: >> On Fri, 2019-06-14 at 00:47 +0200, Daniel Borkmann wrote: >>> On 06/12/2019 07:00 AM, Andrii Nakryiko wrote: >>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 8:48 PM Matt Mullins <mmullins@xxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> BPF_PROG_TYPE_RAW_TRACEPOINTs can be executed nested on the same CPU, as >>>>> they do not increment bpf_prog_active while executing. >>>>> >>>>> This enables three levels of nesting, to support >>>>> - a kprobe or raw tp or perf event, >>>>> - another one of the above that irq context happens to call, and >>>>> - another one in nmi context >>>>> (at most one of which may be a kprobe or perf event). >>>>> >>>>> Fixes: 20b9d7ac4852 ("bpf: avoid excessive stack usage for perf_sample_data") >>> >>> Generally, looks good to me. Two things below: >>> >>> Nit, for stable, shouldn't fixes tag be c4f6699dfcb8 ("bpf: introduce BPF_RAW_TRACEPOINT") >>> instead of the one you currently have? >> >> Ah, yeah, that's probably more reasonable; I haven't managed to come up >> with a scenario where one could hit this without raw tracepoints. I'll >> fix up the nits that've accumulated since v2. >> >>> One more question / clarification: we have __bpf_trace_run() vs trace_call_bpf(). >>> >>> Only raw tracepoints can be nested since the rest has the bpf_prog_active per-CPU >>> counter via trace_call_bpf() and would bail out otherwise, iiuc. And raw ones use >>> the __bpf_trace_run() added in c4f6699dfcb8 ("bpf: introduce BPF_RAW_TRACEPOINT"). >>> >>> 1) I tried to recall and find a rationale for mentioned trace_call_bpf() split in >>> the c4f6699dfcb8 log, but couldn't find any. Is the raison d'être purely because of >>> performance overhead (and desire to not miss events as a result of nesting)? (This >>> also means we're not protected by bpf_prog_active in all the map ops, of course.) >>> 2) Wouldn't this also mean that we only need to fix the raw tp programs via >>> get_bpf_raw_tp_regs() / put_bpf_raw_tp_regs() and won't need this duplication for >>> the rest which relies upon trace_call_bpf()? I'm probably missing something, but >>> given they have separate pt_regs there, how could they be affected then? >> >> For the pt_regs, you're correct: I only used get/put_raw_tp_regs for >> the _raw_tp variants. However, consider the following nesting: >> >> trace_nest_level raw_tp_nest_level >> (kprobe) bpf_perf_event_output 1 0 >> (raw_tp) bpf_perf_event_output_raw_tp 2 1 >> (raw_tp) bpf_get_stackid_raw_tp 2 2 >> >> I need to increment a nest level (and ideally increment it only once) >> between the kprobe and the first raw_tp, because they would otherwise >> share the struct perf_sample_data. But I also need to increment a nest >> level between the two raw_tps, since they share the pt_regs -- I can't >> use trace_nest_level for everything because it's not used by >> get_stackid, and I can't use raw_tp_nest_level for everything because >> it's not incremented by kprobes. >> >> If raw tracepoints were to bump bpf_prog_active, then I could get away >> with just using that count in these callsites -- I'm reluctant to do >> that, though, since it would prevent kprobes from ever running inside a >> raw_tp. I'd like to retain the ability to (e.g.) >> trace.py -K htab_map_update_elem >> and get some stack traces from at least within raw tracepoints. >> >> That said, as I wrote up this example, bpf_trace_nest_level seems to be >> wildly misnamed; I should name those after the structure they're >> protecting... > > I still don't get what's wrong with the previous approach. > Didn't I manage to convince both of you that perf_sample_data > inside bpf_perf_event_array doesn't have any issue that Daniel brought up? > I think this refcnting approach is inferior. Hm, but looking at perf RB handling code, it can deal with nesting situation just fine. I think this was your main concern with prior email: because I suspect that 'struct bpf_event_entry' is not reentrable (even w/o issues with 'struct perf_sample_data'). Even if we always use 'struct perf_sample_data' on stack, I suspect the same 'struct bpf_event_entry' cannot be reused in the nested way. Check the perf_output_{get,put}_handle() and the way it updates head pointer and does the final propagation to user_page. So if it's designed to handle these situations, then bailing out doesn't make sense from BPF side.