Re: ever onward with firefox

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Jeffery,

Thanks. This basic stuff is exactly what I need. I've been using Unix or Linux text consoles for
the past 40 or so years.  All my instincts tell me to edit as if I am using vi/vim with
often hilarious results. So my situation is exactly opposite yours.


  I had to hunt in Learn mode to find my Insert, Home, and End keys because I never use them.
I only know where the arrow keys are because I need them to control mplayer in text console mode.
Your so called basic instructions are an enormous help.

Very appreciatively,

Rudy

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On Sun, Feb 02, 2025 at 10:21:41PM +0000, Jeffery Mewtamer wrote:
>    As a general rule, once a textbox has focus, usually because you used
>    Orca's e navigation hotkey to jump to it and switched to focus mode or
>    tabbed to it from an adjacent form element, you should be able to just
>    type into it.
>    That said, I know console applications don't always use standard
>    keyboard shortcuts that are near universal across both Windows and
>    Linux when it comes to editing text, so here are some basic keyboard
>    shortcuts when in a textbox that should also apply to most GUI text
>    editors, word processors, etc.:
>    Textboxes in web forms come in two versions:A  single line and
>    multi-line, and best I can tell, Orca doesn't make a distinction
>    between them. In either case, left/right arrow will move the insertion
>    point one character at a time, and ctrL+left/right arrow will move the
>    insertion point to the next whitespace or punctuation character, and
>    home/end to the beginning/end of the line. for Single line text
>    entries, up/down arrow act like home/end, while for multi line, they
>    move by line. PageUp/PageDown will move by multiple lines in a
>    multi-line textbox, but they are rather unpredictable.
>    Hold shift and use arrow/navigation keys to select text, everything
>    acting like it does for moving the insertion point, including the
>    ctrl+left/right arrow to go by word/string.
>    ctrl+a: Select all. If a textbox is focused, this will select the
>    contents of the text box. If you are in browse mode, it will select
>    everything on the page.
>    delete/backspace: will delete whatever is selected, if anything, if
>    nothing is selected, they just delete the next/previous character
>    relative to the insertion point.
>    ctrl+c: copy selection
>    ctrl+x: cut selection
>    ctrl+v: paste last thing copy/pasted
>    ctrl+shift+v: This isn't useful when editing text in firefox, but if
>    you need to copy something from Firefox or another GUI application into
>    a terminal window, the normal ctrl+v to paste often won't work and
>    you'll need to use ctrl+shift+v to paste into the terminal.
>    Firefox has a built-in spell checker and Orca should announce an
>    unrecognized word when you press space at the end of the word or move
>    the insertion point into it, and Firefox's suggestions for correcting
>    the unrecognized word are part of the context menu when a textbox has
>    focus.
>    As for copying the contents of a file into a textbox,, if you type:
>    file:///path/to/directory
>    into Firefox's address bar(accessed with ctrl+l), you can navigate
>    local directories, and if it's a file Firefox can read, you can open
>    local files, though Firefox will only open plain text files that have
>    the .txt extension as far as I know. I have several local directories
>    where I'm likely to want to copy the contents of a text file contained
>    therein into a web form, and when I want to do so, I open the
>    appropriate bookmark to a local directory in a new tab, open the file I
>    want to copy, elect all, copy, switch tabs, and paste. Firefox also has
>    an open file option in the file menu, through I personally find the
>    generated directory listings easier to navigate than the open file
>    dialog. Sadly, I'm not aware of any way to just insert the contents of
>    a local file into a textbox without manually opening the file and
>    copying its contents, and naturally, you'd need another GUI app for
>    files that can't be opened directly in Firefox.
>    Hope that helps and sorry if some of this is super basic. I've been
>    using firefox since before Firefox 1.0, longer than I've been using
>    Linux and I was a long time Linux user when I went blind and I've never
>    gotten the hang of using a text-mode web browser, so I really don't
>    know how much of this is stuff you genuinely don't know coming from
>    text browsers and how much is stuff I take for granted becuase I
>    struggle to remember a time before I learned.

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