For that, Daniel, you just remove the spaces and it works, there are no spaces in the package name. It's just dashes between the words.
Kyle,that's a fair point, and I'll just point out my point about sane defaults, and how some desktops are better than others at it though as wellOn Fri, 3 Jan 2025 at 20:22, Daniel Crone <dcrone215@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
After typingsudo apt install xfce4 - whiskermenu -pluginI got the message that package could not be located, and plugin could not be located.What might account for this?On Jan 3, 2025, at 11:40, jace Kattalakis <khalfang1366@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:I'm using XFCE from NixOS, so I'm on version 4.20 right now and I've set it up so I can hit the Windows key and get XFCE@s version of a start menu, which they call the Whisker menu. Honestly, for slow, underpowered and old machines, I'd say XFCE is a lot more intuitive to use if you are coming from Windows or Mac. it's a lot easier to tell someone once you got the Whisker menu set up, to hit the Windows key and start typing. FOr context,t the Whisker menu is like the old Windows start menu. You got the programs, then you can search and so on, and hit enter to launch stuff. FOr instance, if I hit Windows, it brings up my favorites by default, so I can just type in fire and it'll find Firefox, and I hit enter on that, or I can type mouse and it'll launch he Mousepad text editor, and so on
I'm on NixOS so my way of doing things is different to ,say, Ubuntu or Arch or something though, and this is where Googling your distro and how to do stuff is going to come in handy. I wouldn't recommend NixOS for absolute beginners unless you get a pre made configuration. Instead I'd say stick with your distro and get XFCE how you like and go from there. If you mess up yes you can reinstall, and take notes. Take lots, and lots, of notesaOn Fri, 3 Jan 2025 at 17:28, Daniel Crone <dcrone215@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:I am in Tennessee. Where are you?On Jan 3, 2025, at 11:16, jace Kattalakis <khalfang1366@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:For Discord, I use the website with Orca and it works well for me. I'll see how well Zoom works, and yes,but the majority of the Linux communities I'm in are on Discord though.I've not used Zoom since the pandemic actually, and forgot how well it works with Firefox, but yes, I'd be up for chatting and actually know quite a few blind Linux people who are far smarter than me about Linux-y things. I just use NixOS because it works for what I want, I can install, pull down my config and then just go from there and everything is in one file. Caveat: It's not the most beginner friendly distro thoughOn Fri, 3 Jan 2025 at 17:00, Daniel Crone <dcrone215@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:Hello, Daniel Crone writing to you.
I thank you for your writing about these matters.
I think it would be good to meet with anyone interested in linux with zoom or by telephone, or how you like.
I had tried discord, but could not figure out how to work it.
Might you like to chat about linux with me or with anyone?
> On Jan 3, 2025, at 09:27, jace Kattalakis <khalfang1366@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Alright here's my thoughts.
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> KDE is good, but, I'm on an underpowered laptop right now so KDE sadly isn't an option. They have come a long,long way from 5.2X to 6.2X and have made strides. The big one is Konsole is not accessible, and there can be too many settings. The other big one is, at least on both my systems, KDE Plasma 6.2 has a noticeable lag. has anyone else noticed that, or is it just my system being somewhat older?
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> As for desktops I'm using? On my main desktop, KDE, even with the lag.It's still good even if I have to use a different terminal
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> On my underpowered laptop, XFCE is blazingly quick, and the thing I like about it is, it doesn't use a ton of RAM like KDE or other desktops can. I'm running a VM, I've got FF and Discord open and am sitting at 4.8 of 8 GB RAM used, so just about 5GB.If I had KDE going I'd run out of RAN on my cheap laptop. XFCE has similarish Windows defaults. (as does KDE Plasma with the exception of alt+Space for the app launcher, something I've shamelessly stolen for my XFCE setup because I like alt space for my app launchers tyvm.
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> Caveat: I'm running NixOS so YMMV on this, but...here's my experience. If you use other distros,your mileage will vary so...get the grains of salt ready
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> Mate: Feels clunky after using Plasma and XFCE and gnome. No, I can't get the Brisk menu on NixOS, but when I tried it on Arch, it felt okay, not amazing and felt slower than XFCE however and had a system tray Orca didn't care to read.
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> Gnome 47: It's good but tends to crash a lot on my system and if I'm running wayland I need to log out and back in when that happens. Total KB freeze and it's a 50/50 shot if hammering Esc wil bring the shell back, and I've had Gnome-Terminal alt+f4 on me when Orca is running, and only when, Orca is running.
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> KDE Plasma: On Wayland, it works great, just a little laggy and some A11Y issues. On X11, it dodsn't pick up my declared keyboard layout and reverts to US English but that's likely a NixOS issue so YMMV on that. Oddly the lag seemed to start with 6.2 however as far as Orca announcing stuff so I'm not sure it's Orca 47.2, Plasma 6.2 or something else. Konsole, the default terminal, is not accessible last I checked though, has this changed at all? I was told Frameworks 5.9 did a bunch of A11y stuff but I can't test that right now.
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> XFCE: Current desktop on my underpowered laptop. It's horrific looking, but blind people don't care about that. it's quick but modular but has no accessible system tray, but needs you to set things up initially (such as the Whisker menu), and needs some tweaks to be decent