hello Didier, thanks for the comment! The thing is, in UM 22.04, everything was working okay with Arctica and Orca, in fact, it was working quite well until 23.10, 24.04 is the release which has broken several things. Orca having problems after session start is Mate 1.28 bug, that needs to be fixed on the DE level, I don't know yet the cause of the Arctica problem so I can not comment further in this regard yet. And well, the Flutter installer is very new, so it still needs some love, just like Flutter itself. Ubuntu 22.04 is really outdated. I myself am still on the previous LTS and I'm miles behind the current Orca development, there are many web bugs which are fixed in the new Orca, many new features, and also atspi is undergoing some serious changes, which are not reflected in the old Ubuntu and prevent Orca from being upgraded. But overal, personally I'm not a big fan of a11y specialized distros. I'm not discouraging people who are, it's everybody's personal opinion what suits them the best, and my point of view is the best approach for stable, good and uptodate experience is staying as close to the mainstream as possible. And UMAI is a tool making this task easily available for everyone, from novices to seasoned users. Best regards Rastislav Dňa 22. 9. 2024 o 18:55 Didier Spaier napísal(a): > Hello Ratislav, > > I just checked: Accessible Coconut is way better than Ubuntu Mate 24.04 from an > accessibility stand point IMHO. It is fully accessible with speech out of the > box including in the Arctica lightdm greeter. > > Further, you can switch from graphical to console mode (pressing for instance > ctrl+alt+f2) and have speech there (using fenrir in their case), which last I > checked Slint can do but not Ubuntu (at least not Debian) out of the box. > > Granted it's currently based on Ubuntu 22.04 (Jammy) including orca 42.0 but > that doesn't seem to bother its users. > > Maybe you could install it to check and port some of their custom settings and > installed software in your umai script? > > Cheers, > Didier > > > Le 9/22/24 à 14:31, 'Rastislav Kish' via blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx a écrit : >> Hello everyone, >> today I decided to finally release my accessibility improving script >> <https://github.com/RastislavKish/umai> for Ubuntu Mate 24.04. I’m not entirely >> satisfied with certain things, mostly Orca not starting on the login screen >> despite an explicit configuration of Arctica to launch it, but the rest of >> things seem to be pretty okay. Plus we have the new workaround for Orca not >> starting after session login because of Mate bug (this affects all other Mate >> distros btw, like Fedora). >> Speaking of the Redhat distro, I’m seriously considering writing a Fedora >> version of UMAI. The thing is, the new Flutter based installer which UM uses is >> something… I can deal with as someone who has gone through countless Linux >> installation processes, like many of us, but I’m not sure how convincing would >> the experience be for an entirely new user, who, in addition, may not even be >> used to work with flat review and know how to apply it. >> Fedora has a really cute installer which is imo even better than Ubiquity was, >> GUI-wise, but many of the things it requires to setup after the initial >> installation are likely to require quite a bit of GSettings research, such as >> figuring out how to activate the advanced mate menu programmatically. Thus for >> now, this stays an open thing. >> >> Anyway, if anyone decides to go with UM these days, anything else than 24.04 is >> pretty much obsolete from accessibility viewpoint. So, welcome on Ubuntu Mate 24.04! >> >> Note: Automatic system upgrades to 24.04 are known to go bad for pretty much >> everyone, blind or sighted, I would strongly encourage a clean installation if >> you’re running an older version of the distro. >> >> Best regards >> >> Rastislav >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email >> to blinux-list+unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:blinux-list+unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxx>. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blinux-list+unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxx. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blinux-list+unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxx.