I downloaded it using a torrent and I used: transmission-cli -er -m -v as the prefix to that download. It's possible to do the whole archlinux installation and enable dhcpcd and espeakup and then reboot and all that happens is silence after the speakers click. -- Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blinux-list+unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxx.