Re: Thoughts on KDE Plasma as of right now

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In no particular order...


1. Yes, a said in the other mails, none of the dialogs read, but I can add export QT_LINUX_ACCESSIBILITY_ALWAYS_ON=1 # for QT5 accessibility into both .xinitrc and /bashrc too


Yes I was trying to add a shortcut for opening a terminal with Meta+T for example. Is it already in one of the Meta 1-0 keys, if so I didn't find it, or is it only set to look for yakuake/Konsole? I can dig in the .xml files to check and see if so


PAM and unlocking after sleep/when doing startx does not accept my password and acts as a failed login, thus locking me out after 3 failed logins.



On 6/23/22 16:52, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Wonder if we could set that environment variable as KDE starts?
Devin Prater
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On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 10:34 AM Linux for blind general discussion <
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Howdy,

I mean, all I really need is the apps being fixed, things like
konsole, the various windows and programs and it's definitely useable.
Dolphin is surprisingly great, I went in expecting oh, it'll be a pain
to use.
yes, most apps already got very basic support, but this needs to be
improved a lot. first lets fix up most the desktop related components.
Konsole should have basic accessibility support as well. but i think the
handling in orca to VTE is very special black magic. this might need to
be done for Konsole as well.
the support for konsole is tracked at this task:
https://phabricator.kde.org/T10099
last thing was QT was missing the Terminal accessibility role. this was
added then by frederik. so the work could here beeing continue as well.

The only show stopper or me, and I've not found a workaround yet, is
that the QT5 windows and panels do not read
QT5 windows should be accessible by default. you might have to set an
environment variable:
set this to your ~/.bashrc file
export QT_LINUX_ACCESSIBILITY_ALWAYS_ON=1 # for QT5 accessibility

by the way, in latest plasma 5.25 there is a new shortcut to focus all
available desktop panels Meta + Alt + p (it cycles between all available
desktop panels and the desktop itself). the desktop panel and tray area
is also now keyboard navigate able. But some accessibility labels are
missing or could  be improved. this is next on my list.

just to share the latest links i send to orca list:
my blog post about current KDE accessibility team efforts:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/68079468

Carls current proposal to have accessibility as 3 year goal (this is a
voting process):
https://phabricator.kde.org/T15611
my old proposal from 2019 to try to set accessibility as KDE goal (sadly
not voted):
https://phabricator.kde.org/T11074
lets hope accessibility is set as KDE goal for now. this would be great
and would give that a lot of love and attention.

i will do a basic review of the current situation at weekend. for those
are curious about KDEs accessibility state.

cheers chrys
Am 23.06.22 um 13:05 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
I mean, all I really need is the apps being fixed, things like
konsole, the various windows and programs and it's definitely useable.
Dolphin is surprisingly great, I went in expecting oh, it'll be a pain
to use.

No, Dolphin was quick, useable and responsive. The only show stopper
or me, and I've not found a workaround yet, is that the QT5 windows
and panels do not read, the irony of the accessibility panel being
inaccessible is not lost on me, but I'm tempted to keep it around to
see where it goes, and given the Steam Deck uses Plasma last I
checked, here's hoping for improvements that get ported there too

On 6/23/22 11:53, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Yeah, I've not tried it in like half a year, but this has prompted me to
begin as a Patron to linux-accessibility again. Just $19 per month,
but I
hope it helps enthusiasm and to keep up this really great work!
Devin Prater
r.d.t.prater@xxxxxxxxx




On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 5:18 AM Linux for blind general discussion <
blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

So given the news about KDE accessibility getting worked on, I figured
I'd give KDE a shot. I wasn't that impressed last time.

However. It's improved a lot, I can do basic things, which is a big
step
up, and I get talking app launchers, and can do email, web browsing and
text editing which is a big, big plus.


That being said, I still cannot change system settings or default apps
like I can on, say, Mate but, and here's the thing I like about KDE
Plasma as of writing this...


It is fast, it, on my Arch box, so YMMV on other OSes, but I'm running
this on my Arch box, the thing I like about it is the keyboard commands
make sense.

Now, if I can just work on adding a shortcut that doesn't require me to
go and fight with a window that won't read, that'd be good. Plasma is
pleasently surprising and worth checking in on.

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