Not everyone actually has a phone. Shocking, I know but there are absolutely people who don't have a phone, or don't want to give out their number. Or who lose that number or get a new one and can't update the old one however. Looking at you, certain phone providers for that stunt.... On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 01:32:19AM -0500, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > They can use their phone number instead. > Devin Prater > r.d.t.prater@xxxxxxxxx > > > > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 5:20 PM Linux for blind general discussion < > blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Not only that, what's a new windows user to do if they don't already have > > an email address? > > > > > > On Wed, 13 Apr 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > > > > > With Linux however...I don't have to have an email account to log in > > > > > > I have the choice to run a desktop, or none at all > > > > > > I have the ability to install what I want, from a trusted source without > > fear of oh this site's shady, is it a virus, type fears. > > > > > > I can do one command to update my system, without having to reboot. > > > > > > I don't get unneeded software installed at boot time that returns with > > updates, and I don't have to use a debloat script written by a third party > > to chop out bits of the OS > > > > > > Oh and, yes.... > > > > > > It's my machine. I can set it up how I want, with the programs I want > > and need, without some arbitrary bit of the OS going mg this this not well > > known it is a virus are you sure you want to run this!' > > > > > > Oh and, I can get my machine working without spending inordinate amounts > > of money on A11Y tech and software, though as well. On a console, speakup > > and Fenrir work well. Orca isn't perfect but nor are screenreaders on the > > Windows/Mac sides of things, and those are insanely bigger and more > > resourceful companies > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 04:51:38PM -0500, Linux for blind general > > discussion wrote: > > > > > > > Wow, responding to these points: > > > > Devin Prater > > > > r.d.t.prater@xxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 2:08 PM Linux for blind general discussion < > > > > blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Why not use windows 11 then? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now why the hell would I wanna do something like that? First, I want > > my > > > > > freedom. Next, I don't want to have to get a Microsoft account just > > to > > > > > use my computer. > > > > > > > > These are valid points. But what I get from Windows: a mostly clean > > > > accessibility experience (mostly thanks to NVDA and community > > support), and > > > > a good many apps designed by and for the blind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > And for God's sake I want to be able to change my > > > > > default browser or uninstall something I don't want. > > > > > > > > I mean I have Google Chrome set as my default browser right now. And I > > can > > > > uninstall a lot. There's no Candy Crush Saga, and I just uninstalled > > Dizney > > > > Plus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > And if I do want to > > > > > open up a terminal sometimes, it is my right to do so. > > > > > > > > Windows Terminal exists. They even have a Windows package manager. But > > if > > > > you don't like that one, you use Scoop, or Chocolatey, which also have > > some > > > > Linux apps and command line programs. > > > > > > > > > And their mail > > > > > application is broken as fsck as well. > > > > > > > > > That's still true. But you'd just install Thunderbird wouldn't you? It > > > > works even better on windows than Linux because the accessibility bus > > is > > > > faster to load all those messages into its buffers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~Kyle > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list