Re: different desktops

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Is Cinnamon as good and accessible as  Mate? If thaat's so, it's great then.

On Wed, Apr 06, 2022 at 03:17:39PM -0400, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Cinnamon would qualify as a desktop and is supposed to be similar to mate
in operation.


On Wed, 6 Apr 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

Just pointing out that Ratpoison+Strychnine, IceWm, Openbox and others aren't
exactly full desktops, but are pretty much just the window manager side of
things. A full desktop would include at least one panel with system
tray/notification area, app indicators such as the battery monitor and clock,
most of the time a file manager that doubles as a root window desktop that can
include launchers and mount points and an application menu or some other type
of launcher that allows you to see the applications on the system and launch
them, usually grouped into various categories. Strychnine does do some of this
for Ratpoison, but it's pretty much just a launcher menu and run window type
of thing. Many components that would make it a full desktop are still missing,
although it is possible to run Caja or Nautilus and possibly either mate-panel
or gnome-panel along with it for a more full desktop experience if desired.


About the best full desktop experience I've used is GNOME 2.x, which is
continued as the MATE desktop. Some panel applets don't necessarily speak as
much as they should, for example, nm-applet, which is the network manager,
only says "panel," but for the most part, everything just works and is
navigable with only a keyboard, although I find Orca's "speak object under
mouse" to be fairly useful at times as well. GNOME 3.x and 40+ is another
option, but some things seem to be a little less usable than the MATE desktop
overall. KDE is coming along, but is still in the early stages of a11y
development, so although many things are starting to work pretty well, others
are still not quite usable at this stage. For full desktops, the only other
partially usable options are xfce, lxde and lxqt, and all of those seem to be
getting a bit long in the tooth, and some of these are even starting to lose
some of the accessibility they once had. So as full desktops go, my three best
recommendations would be MATE, then GNOME, then KDE. And then there are the
window managers that include keyboard navigation, Ratpoison+Strychnine
probably being the best of those options, although I have heard that IceWM,
Fluxbox and Openbox, as well as possibly i3, can also be made more usable with
either helper applications or hand-edited configuration files.

~Kyle

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