I may be way off on this, but to my ears, the speed is bout the same
with a yay -S (or Paru or however you install your AUR packages) fenrir
or fenrir-git though. It's not so much the speed I'm finding a problem,
it's the voice, but...
I can do 99% of what I want in Ratpoison though, and only really need a
TTY for logging in though. Once Ratpoison's up and running it's good old
Orca and espeak-NG in my headphones
Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Using espeak I can do really fast, but synthesizors that try and sound
human, sorry, but the deafblind guy in the room simply gets a headache
and gets lossed.
Warm regards,
Brandt Steenkamp
Sent from the Slint console using Alpine
On Fri, 18 Feb 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 19:40:58 +0000
From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Accessibility of installing Distros?
Going off of vanilla Arch here but it uses espeakup by default as the
speech synth and method in the accessible boot (which is down arrow
when booting off a stick or CD) and it's easy to understand. I get
it. Some people can do stupidly high speech rates. But not everyone
can. I've left espeakup alone on my box and it works pretty well, I
can adjust it easily and it's easy to understand and follow along
with. Even at top speed it's not insanely fast
Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
If you install espeak-ng in extra packages then in the chroot
environment:
sysctl disable fenrir
then sysctl enable espeak
before rebooting that should at least put an end to fenrir eventually.
The fenrir speech speed is too fast; it can be adjusted downward but I
think never ought to have been set that fast for installation or
post-install use. Maybe speech-rate=0.5 would be better and at the
speed
espeak uses by default.
On Fri, 18 Feb 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
The issue is that it's already on a desktop, usually Mate.
If I install it again, I'm installing it console only, and then
building
it as
I see fit, which would be with ratpoison only.
Will probably go to Arch directly anyway. Why get something that,
firstly
speaks with a Screen reader I never bothered to learn, since
Speakup works
well enough for my needs, secondly speaks so darn fast no human can
understand
the thing, especially if, like me you can hardly hear anything anymore
anyway?
I can build my system in vanilla Arch as well as with anything
else. I,
for
example wouldn't install Firefox at all, but probably one of the
Chromium
based browsers plus elinks for when I'm beeing lazy and want to
stay on a
console.
Warm regards,
Brandt Steenkamp
Sent from the Slint console using Alpine
On Fri, 18 Feb 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 13:41:19 -0500
From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Accessibility of installing Distros?
Have you tried running startx to turn orca on? You may find that
works.
On Fri, 18 Feb 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Sometimes it would finish the install, then reboot, and come up
speaking
with
Fenrir with a very annoying voice, especially if you, like me is
legally
deafblind, then after typing your username and password, Fenrir
would
just
die
and you are stuck, I know it's a desktop environment, but nothing
turns
orca
on.
So much for an accessible distro.
This is why I love Slint. It does exactly what "you", tell it to
do, not
the
dev.
No disrespect to Mr. Nash, I'm sure he's a perfectly nice guy,
not that
I've
ever spoken to him though.
Warm regards,
Brandt Steenkamp
Sent from the Slint machine using Thunderbird
On 2022/02/18 17:10, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Makes at least two of us. The installer always found itself
looping
and
repeating failed package retrieval.
Cheers,
Dave
On 2/17/22 13:12, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
I could never get Jenux to work correctly on my setup.
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