Re: A question about Fenrir on Arch linux

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Hello there,


I have tried sending this message a cupple of times, but the message body was too big.

Because of that, I am trying a Dropbox link.

When you click on it, it'll automatically download a file called Fenrir log.txt

Here is the link:


https://www.dropbox.com/s/xjlxnxkzr3z7s8p/fenrir%20log.txt?dl=1


Best regards.

Francisco.

On 5/22/21 9:15 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Howdy,

Configure speech-dispatcher is not needed. By default fenrir uses the generic speech driver. This does  generate speech by suprocessing. So basically same like calling espeak-ng in shell.

I dont stay at home currently as i help a friend to knock down a wall in his house (thats fun).

Can you send me a debug file of fenrirs initialisation progress to analyze your issue?

sudo fenrir -d

Then press
Ctrl + c

You find a file /tmp/fenrir<PID>_<timestamp>.log
Where PID is replaced by process ID and timestamp wit current date. /time

Still looking forwart to meet you in IRC :D

Cheers chrys

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 22.05.2021 um 02:04 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>:

Hi did you tell speech-dispatcher to use espeak-ng?.  You can change this in etc/speech-dispatcher/speechddccf. Speechddccf HTH.

Matthew



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Subject: Re: A question about Fenrir on Arch linux

Hello there,


removing espeak doesn't fix it, the same problem still persists.

Best regards.

Francisco.


On 5/21/21 12:36 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Howdy

I have espeak, sox, and xclip installed, plus pulseaudio,
pulseaudio-alsa, alsa-utils and plugins.
espeak-ng is used by default instead of espeak. espeak-ng is the
successor of espeak. do take care to not install espeak but espeak-ng
and give another shot :).


Am 21.05.21 um 11:47 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
Hello there,


Just for the heck of it, I redid a clean install of arch with
pulseaudio this time, and I configured everything I needed running
the sh script you indicated.

It half works, and half doesn't.

What I mean by that is that when I restarted the machine, just a few
seconds ago and ran fenrir as sudoer, it played the sound icon, thing
that with pipewire didn't happen, but gave me no speech at all.

I have espeak, sox, and xclip installed, plus pulseaudio,
pulseaudio-alsa, alsa-utils and plugins.

Any suggestions?

Thanks again.

Best regards.

Francisco.

On 5/18/21 5:06 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Howdy,

do you have the requirements for the generic sound / voice drivers
installed?
To get sure, reinstall it execute:
sudo pacman -S sox espeak-ng xclip

sox is used for play sound, espeak for voice output in the default
configuration, xclip is a funny toy to let fenrir share the
clipboard between your GUI and Terminal.

start fenrir for testing in foreground - you can stop it using CTRL + C
sudo fenrir

did you hear the startup sound? fenrir plays a little soundicon at
startup.

if not, then pulseaudio is not configured.
short story execute:
# configure user
/usr/share/fenrirscreenreader/tools/configure_pulse.sh
# configure root
sudo /usr/share/fenrirscreenreader/tools/configure_pulse.sh

# need to restart that the configuration for both get active

restart

then retry

sudo fenrir

long storry: fenrir needs by default to run as root to collect the
data on your screen or caputre the input devices. if fenrir speaks
or creates sound, it does this as root user. you wont hear sound of
an other user by pulseaudio (sound server) design. We need to
transport the sound created as root to the sound server you have
running as user to finally hear the sound.

fenrir provides 2 scripts (see above) to configure the root puse
audio to send the data to your user and configure user pulse audio
to listen to the sound sent by root and play it.

cheers chrys


18.05.21 um 14:46 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:

Hello there,


Thanks so much, now, that part of the problem is solved!

The other part, how ever, that is not solved, is that fenrir
doesn't speak with espeak, or espeak-ng.

Do I have to set something somewhere for that to happen?

Thanks again.

Best regards.

Francisco.

On 5/18/21 10:24 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Howdy Francisco,

i dont know why those libs are not an dependency by
python-pyenchant if those are spread warnings. Maybe this should
be reported to the package maintainer. But anyway.

you can ask pacman what package contains the specific file you
need by "sudo pacman -Fy filename". here i did this for for
example in libvokko.so:

10:14 [chrys@blackbeast ~] :) $ sudo pacman -Fy libvoikko.so
[sudo] Passwort für chrys:
:: Synchronisiere Paketdatenbanken...
core 903,5 KiB  6,17 MiB/s 00:00
[#########################################################################]
100%
extra 9,3 MiB  26,9 MiB/s 00:00
[#########################################################################]
100%
community 22,8 MiB  29,6 MiB/s 00:01
[#########################################################################]
100%
multilib 222,5 KiB  12,8 MiB/s 00:00
[#########################################################################]
100%
extra/libvoikko 4.3.1-1
    usr/lib/libvoikko.so
10:15 [chrys@blackbeast ~] :) $

so the package you need for libvokko.so is "libvoikko"
to silence out all the warnings do this:
sudo pacman -S libvoikko nuspell hspell

this install all 3 (IMO optional dependency's, what should not
create a warning, but well, it is like it is)

i use irssi as IRC (commandline) client. there is also Pidgin (as
graphical client). both are very nice.

looking forward to see you in IRC :).

cheers chrys


Am 18.05.21 um 08:57 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
Hello there,


I managed to install one of the libraries, but not the other two,
so thanks for that.

Also, thanks for suggesting to use yay, I just installed it, I
didn't know yaourt was deprecated.

My question now is, and this'll be dum, what are recommended IRC
clients? how do I get them working? what should I know before
joining an IRC channel, what ever it might be?

Thanks again.

Best regards.

Francisco.

On 5/17/21 9:19 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Hi, I just posted a link to this message intended to chrys
(Fenrir author) on the #a11y channel of irc.linux-a11y.org.

Maybe join him there?

Didier

Le 17/05/2021 à 20:15, Linux for blind general discussion a écrit :
Hello everyone,


I just downloaded fenrir-git from the AUR using yaourt.

When I try to run fenrir with the command

fenrir

in a terminal, how ever, i get fenrir's startup sound, and this:


[francisco@Blueblink ~]$ fenrir
** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.374: Error loading
plugin: libhspell.so.
0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.374: Error loading
plugin: libvoikko.so.
1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.377: Error loading
plugin: libnuspell.so
.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory


Any ideas on how to fix it, and no speech either.

Thank you for any answer.

Best regards.

Francisco.

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