Re: Formatting - was Would you be interested in having natural sounding TTS voices by Readspeaker on Linux? demo link included

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My answer to this repetitive question is most definitely no and for the same reason speech synthesizers weren't originally given naturally sounding voices in the beginning of their development. Speech synthesizers in the early 1960's were top secret equipment and put in military fighter aircraft and maybe also bombers. The reason they didn't get natural sounding voices then was that the air crews needed to be able to distinguish speech synthesizer announcements from other natural sounding speech from over the intercom and over the radio. Having lived with synthetic sounding speech in my case since 1987 not only am I used to it, as a result of research I did on its origins I understand its purpose and proper use. Can synthetic speech be left synthetic and get around people's auditory difficulties? That I don't know but that could be a helpful line of research.



On Sun, 18 Apr 2021, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

But this is one thing I find confusing...at least for Linux.
tts is not a screen reader program.
One may incorporate a tts module into the workings of a screen reader program, the way drivers were written to allow hardware synthesizers to communicate with said program, but the tts itself is not going to, on its own, manage things like responsiveness while typing and the like...and that is before you talk of latency problem possibilities. It is the screen reader program itself that, in my experience, takes care of inflection, allowing the user to get more or less, same thing with punctuation marks, pitch and speed. If speak reader is strictly a tts, the company may not understand the need for things like making sure the tts can follow activity and control of the computer itself. before writing this email I did a quick google using the phrase tts defined? with the first several options discussing how those with reading challenges like dyslexia use tts to manage small blocks of words on the screen with the recommended rate of 180 words per minute..or less. It is, speaking personally, very unfortunate that some think a tts is a screen reader program, when in reality they are different.
I have a friend who likes to use her amazon kindle to read fanfiction aloud.
We have these discussions because my screen reader has no issue properly pronouncing say the name of Ron Weasley from the harry Potter books, but the Kindle tts cannot pronounce the word correctly at all. Do not be surprised if you end up needing to demonstrate how your screen reader, orca or speakup, does more than just read text, which for many is the only purpose of a tts tool.
Does that make sense?



On Sat, 17 Apr 2021, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

 The problem is that all the so called human voices are spliced together
 syllables and word fragments taped together. So you get emphasis on the
 wrong parts of the sentences, pauses in the wrong place, and stuff like
 that. If they would devote more machine learning time into proper text to
 speech rendering instead of sensorship and other nonsense, we might get
 somewhere.

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 From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
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 Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2021 00:42:25 +0000
 Subject: Re: Formatting - was Would you be interested in having natural
 sounding TTS voices by Readspeaker on Linux? demo link included

 Don't get me wrong, more natural sounding TTS with proper inflection
 would be great, and for me, the holy grail would be TTS capable of
 reading a digitized novel in real-time or reading subtitles on foreign
 media in real-time and be indistinguishable from a human cast
 recording a audio dramatization or dubbed vocal track... but unless
 there's been massive improvements in recent years I'm unaware of, the
 natural voices are at that point where they almost sound human but
 fail in a subtle but unsettling way that's hard to qualify, and until
 we get over that hurdle, I'll take the obviously robotic monotone over
 the almost, but not quite, passes for a human reader voices for daily
 work.

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