I confess I have a bias towards the command-line, and did most things from a terminal emulator prior to going blind. Even if running a full desktop environment with any regularity was something I was interested in doing, I would hate a system that boots directly to a desktop environment. Only reason I even bother with Firefox and orca is because web browsing is the one everyday task I've yet to find an agreeable text-only solution for. Admittedly, if you just want a Windows-like experience minus Microsoft's shenanigans, a distro that boots directly into Gnome or Mate with Orca autolaunching might be best, and perhaps there are better ways for a blind user to get started learning the command line than Adriane's way of doing things, I really don't know, I had already been using Linux full-time for 6 years when I went blind, having cutt my teeth on the earliest versions of Ubuntu and having jumped ship to vanilla Debian before they ever experimented with doing their own desktop environment. All I know is that one of the last Adriane CDs was the distro that restored my ability to use a computer independantly after my vision got too bad for a high contrast theme and large fonts to help in Debian LXDE, I much prefer the way SBL does screen review to how espeakup does it, and I like being able to launch the only graphical application I use with any regularity without the need of launching a full desktop. My way of doing things probably isn't for everyone, but if sharing my experiences helps even one person, than I think it was worth the effort to type up. -Jeffery _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list