Thanks again Janina, this is definitely good info. So, speakup is moving into the main trunk soon? That's definitely good news!! The irony of this story is, what we are talking about here, *IS* the second small machine --David -----Original Message----- From: blinux-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx <blinux-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Linux for blind general discussion Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 10:00 AM To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: installing speakup on RHEL 7/8 The dirty little secret is that the U.S. Government gave Redhat a pass under 508 back around 2002 when the the then new Sec. 508 regulations where newly in force. So, with their pass they happily stepped away. While they did indeed participate in our National Science Foundation sponsored conference on Linux and desktop accessibility, they were far more interested in desktop than console accessibility all along after 2002. It may be time to revisit that 18-year old decision, but that won't likely help you in the short run. Best advice I can concot is to get a second small machine up and ssh in to the RHEL system. Not a great solution, I know. PS: I'm unaware whether Redhat has named an accessibility officer or not. However, Redhat is now owned by IBM who definitely does have accessibility people. Shaking their cage may be the better way to approach this--still a longer term strategy, but they do need to do something when Speakup leaves staging, so maybe not so very long term after all. hth. Janina Linux for blind general discussion writes: > > Thanks Janina for the info, I wonder if anyone we can ask inside Red > hat to shed some light on this topic, as I am unable to find any > contact info for their accessibility team. > > I imagine I can't be the only one out there who is trying to use > speakup with RHEL, or am I? > > --David > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blinux-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx <blinux-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx> > On Behalf Of Linux for blind general discussion > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 4:07 AM > To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: installing speakup on RHEL 7/8 > > When he was still alive, Bill Acker routinely built Fedora kernels > that included Speakup, both before and after Speakup became part of staging. > I know for a fact that Bill tried, and never succeeded at building > Speakup into RHEL. Now Bill's been gone for a few years, but I've no > reason to believe the environment has suddenly become Speakup friendly, sorry to say. > > No, I don't recall what the block was/were. > > I know that's not what you wanted to hear, but it's the best answer I > can provide and I don't believe you're going to find very much different info. > I'll be happy to be proven wrong, of course. > > It'll be interesting to see what RHEL does when Speakup finally > becomes a first class kernel citizen. If I understand the situation > correctly, that should come fairly soon. > > Best, > > Janina > > Linux for blind general discussion writes: > > > > > > Hi there - > > > > > > > > I am getting a workstation at work that will be running RHEL 7 or 8. > > From what I understand, speakup is not a package in yum, but it is > > now part of the kernel staging tree. > > > > > > > > Does anyone have instructions on how to get speakup installed and > > running on RHEL 7 or 8 using software speech? > > > > > > > > Any help appreciated, thank you very much in advance > > > > > > > > --David > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > -- > > Janina Sajka > https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka > > Linux Foundation Fellow > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- Janina Sajka https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list