Speaking as the one who first mentioned Knoppix, I thought I did a decent job of admitting it's shortcomings... most of which have little to do with accessibility and everything to do with it being intended as a live-only distro... Though, for what it's worth, it's the only live distro I can remember hearing of that can be booted from DVD and come up talking without any user input(though again, since the CD edition was discontinued, such has required a bit of micro remastering starting from the official images, which I fully confess isn't the most newbie friendly thing to do). My running system is based on a hard drive install of Knoppix despite all the reasons not to do so, but I find SBL's screen navigation super intuitive whereas espeakup's makes me wonder if that's how someone who grew up in the era of the GUI feels when they encounter their first command prompt as an adult, plus I like being able to launch Firefox without launching a full desktop and having good, old LXDE waiting for me on the rare occasions I need a full desktop. Would gladly switch to vanilla Debian if I had any clue how to get SBL running as default console screen reader and could figure out launching a single application graphical session with orca. As for the stability of my setup, I take full responsibility for most of the breakages that force me to boot Knoppix from DVD and restore my root partition from backup and the fact I don't create such backups nearly as often as I should, but then again, I'm a bit of an incessant tinker. Overly long commentary on my chosen distro aside, I think an important point to remember here is that many of us are experienced Linux users and were so prior to having any reason to care about Linux accessibility. Much of what we consider straight forward and intuitive might seem intimidating to a Linux oldbie suffering sight loss, or downright terrifying to a blind user dipping their toes in Linux for the first time(and I realize this list has both, but I'd expect those groups to be asking about accessible distros rather than giving opinions thereof), and speaking more generally, what seems obvious and intuitive to an insider on any subject can be downright esoteric to an outsider looking in. _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list