I predict Dominos will have its clock thoroughly cleaned. Precedent
even in the Supreme Court isn't on their side.
Congress made it clear what accessibility requirements are in the
accessibility process and that happened in 2010. There's about 16
technical requirements and a Preamble to Section 508 and this was
something D.O.D. got measured against in 2012 when Obama required a
D.O.D.-wide accessibility report. End result of that was the United
States Navy was Accessibility Leader and the United States Navy was
still left with serious problems and all other components had much
work
to do. I know about that having worked for the Navy during that time.
On Sat, 24 Aug 2019, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 15:53:37
> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: amazon?
> > Amazon is definitely aware of Linux. They have apps running on
Android > and
> even platforms that use Android as their OS. They support Linux
in AWS
> including their own flavor of Linux. I'm sure their are some
staff at > Amazon
> who don't know about Linux, but that doesn't mean the company is
unaware > of or
> doesn't care about Linux.
> > > BTW, there is still a legal question as to whether a web site
which > offers
> products or services to the public needs to be accessible. The
ADA > doesn't
> have companion guidelines on what it means for a site to be
accessible > and
> Domino's is going to court to claim that the ADA doesn't require
them to > make
> their site or apps accessible. I think the ADA does apply to
public web > sites,
> and I think Domino's will lose, but that doesn't mean it isn't
still an > open
> legal question.
> > > > On 8/24/19 2:11 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> > 1. My comment regarding Linux is based on direct communications
with > > Amazon
> > staff,? who have confessed not to have heard of it,and? who
have no > > direct
> > contact with their so called accessibility team when problems
arise.
> > 2. them properly compiled? elinks and links function with java
script.
> > 3.? Access is tied to interaction which is why even later
editions of > > lynx
> > can manage some scripting, submit buttons for example.
> > > > 4. since adaptive technology is often a substitution for
the persons > > eyes,
> > hands, brain, and the like, what gives you the right to state that
> > technology choices are not tied to physical mandates?? How does
your > > stance
> > differ from those who claim that access need not exist at all,?
or > > that all
> > those sharing? a label are the same?
> > 5. the names of access or other individuals at amazon
confirming your
> > assumption here?? the legal stance is that if a site serves the
> > public, an
> > individual can expect equal public access...which is why?
alternative
> > doors??? are to exist? in the first place.
> > How do you know what low graphics can or cannot do if you do
not > > follow
> > their development?? This is about keyboard response which
exists in
> > graphical? browsers like elinks and links.
> > > > > > > > On Fri, 23 Aug 2019, Linux for blind general
discussion wrote:
> > > > > I don't believe for a minute that the accessibility staff
at Amazon > > > has
> > > either forgotten or stopped caring about Linux accessibility.
> > > Realistically
> > > though, it is possible that they have stopped worrying about
the > > > very small
> > > number of people who still use text-based browsers and expect
them > > > to work
> > > for shopping, banking and other modern internet tasks. The
thing is > > > Linux
> > > accessibility in 2019 != lynx/links/elinks accessibility. In
fact, > > > this
> > > hasn't been the case since about 2008 or so
> > > .
> > > Unfortunately, text-based browsers have not kept up with the
rest of > > > the
> > > internet, and can't be expected to work well for most
websites > > > without a
> > > major overhaul, especially since they don't even support the
latest > > > HTML5
> > > standards, nor do they support accessibility standards that
have > > > been in
> > > place for years. Even w3m doesn't fully support the w3c's own
> > > standards.
> > > > > > Yes, I can see why some people may want these
light-weight and fast
> > > browsers to work with Amazon, and yes, they should be made
aware of > > > the
> > > problems that people are having. But to say that Amazon
doesn't care > > > about
> > > Linux accessibility because their site doesn't work with a >
> > text-based
> > > browser is at best a gross exageration, and is at worst a
grave > > > disservice
> > > to those of us who use Linux and a screen reader at the same
time.
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