amazon accessibility has fallen down on the job or isn't being managed properly. Amazon accessibility may also be using a lynx modeling simulator which is now low grade enough much of the keyboard accessibility got sacrificed. On Sat, 24 Aug 2019, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 15:35:48 > From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: amazon? > > Public sites like Amazon are supposed to incorporate css to this end. In fact > for a while, perhaps still? there was a link on the main amazon site > advertising that if one wants a more simplified shopping experience one could > go to the access page...which is now a disaster from a keyboard standpoint. > > > On Sat, 24 Aug 2019, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > > > Personally, it would be nice if web designers would stop shoehorning > > JavaScript and other rich web stuff into pages where the same thing > > could be accomplished with plain, old HTML, would stop setting cookies > > when they aren't needed, and would do a sanity check to ensure their > > forms work properly with keyboard and tabbing. > > > > That said, a site-side fix to any problem only fixes it for that > > specific site, while a browser-side fix could in theory fix it across > > many different sites. > > > > Sadly, there doesn't seem to be much of a happy medium between > > lumbering behemoths like Firefox and Chromium that weigh hundreds of > > megabytes by the time you add up everything they need to run, and > > lightweight html pagers like links, elinks, and lynx that are arguably > > only good for accessing web 1.0 content. > > > > I'd love to ditch Firefox and the GUI in general, but for the sake of > > my sanity, I don't think I could make the move without at least the > > following features in a text web browser: > > > > Enough JavaScript/HTML5 support to display pages that use them to load > > content, ideally disabled by default with a easy method of toggling it > > on when needed or permanently allowing specified sites. > > > > Navigational hotkeys comparable to those provided when using a > > Graphical browser with Orca, NVDA, or JAWS(seriously, some of these > > are so handy I wonder how sighted people with mice(including my own > > past self) make due without them. > > > > The option to turn multi-column web pages into single column pages or > > to stretch the active cell in a table or element in a form to fit the > > screen width. > > > > And my dream web browser would probably nearly replicate the > > Firefox+Orca user experience minus the occasional sluggishness > > introduced by the GUI and Python while having auto-converting all > > clickables to something that can be activated with spacebar and/or > > enter/return and adds in basic keyboard shortcuts for > > temporarily/permanently allowing JavaScript/Cookies in the active > > tab/from the site in the active tab(If starting with Firefox-like > > keybindings, perhaps ctrl+J to toggle JavaScript and ctrl+K to toggle > > cookies adding shift to change the permission permanently). > > > > Sadly, I don't know the first thing about coding a web browser, and > > given how long the well known text browsers have been lagging in > > regards to the most essential aspects of the modern web, I can only > > hope their developers have their reasons for keeping their browsers in > > the past and aren't just too lazy/don't know how to modernize their > > projects. > > > > On 8/24/19, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > >> Actually, sighted power users prefer text-based browsers when and where > >> possible in order to avoid javascript and all that goes with it. Those > >> are decidedly not accessibility users in our sense but do want faster > >> access than can be had using graphical browsers. > >> > >> On Fri, 23 Aug 2019, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > >> > >>> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 20:32:51 > >>> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > >>> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > >>> Subject: Re: amazon? > >>> > >>> Well, are you implying I should be forced to run a graphical > >>> screen-reader > >>> such as Orca, so I can shop at Amazon? I suppose if there were something > >>> much > >>> better than Orca, I would certainly try it out. My Wife wants me to > >>> try-and-shop at Amazon from a Chrome Book. 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