System admin classes if done for linux or unix cover process ids along with some system utilities to control them when that becomes necessary. Whether or not you've had a system admin class in Linux, if you've installed and have your own Linux system operating congratulations, you just got a Linux system Administrator's Hat. Most of those virtual hats have amateur status on them and some novice and a few have professional status. On Tue, 15 Jan 2019, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 11:48:57 > From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Orca does not speak > > I actually hold a BS in Computer Science, though I confess none of my > classes ever went into much detail regarding process IDs, not even the > ones that dealt with Linux(granted, even the Linux-heavy classes > seemed designed for students coming from a Windows background, and by > the time I finished my general education studies and started focusing > on my major, I had been a full-time Linux user for a few years. > > That said, while I can understand the reasoning, and might could even > agree it's the most reasonable choice from an internal, developer > facing perspective, I've been mostly approaching this discussion from > an external, end-user perspective, the explanation requires delving > into what should arguably be a black box from the end-user's side, and > if the wording confuses people who are likely well-above average in > being technologically literate, I feel bad for those who are learning > to use Linux or a computer for the first time. > > I won't begrudge a developer, not even a FOSS developer, for > optimizing their code for their own readibility and workflow, > especially when they expect few external contributions even if they > optimize for general readability, but I do think UI should strive for > minimizing the amount of technical knowledge the end user needs in > order to understand how to operate the software, especially for > something with as general use as a screen reader. > > But meh, I feel like both sides are repeating themselves, neither is > likely to change their opinion, and it's not likely I or anyone else > will make a personal fork of orca to change a pair of two-character > substrings in a single long switch. Wasn't even aware Orca had a > command-line interface prior to this thread and I usually just fix > issues with orca by either closing Firefox, which given my setup > triggers termination of orca and my x-session, or if that fails, > rebooting the computer, which is usually sufficient to fix minor > problems or point out problems big enough to restore a backup of my > root partition(though admittedly, that latter definitely isn't > something I'd expect a beginner to be able to do and I manage such > through bash scripts that save me from having to memorize the cryptic > syntax of partimage). > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > -- _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list