I use patchelf to make Firefox use apulse by default, and while I have a few packages on my system that suggest or recommend pulseaudio, they all work just fine with just libpulse, and these two are tiny compared to everything the pulseaudio metapackage wants to install. Also, I presently have nothing installed that depends on jack. I'll admit, it would be nice if I could have Orca and YouTube speaking at reasonable volume simultaneously without having to use headphones(presently, having Orca speak normally leaves YouTube Whispering even with YouTube's volume slider at max and having YouTube at a reasonable volume leavs Orca shouting, though this only seems to happen with my desktop's internal speaker and headphones seems to equalize them). Admittedly, I don't use my desktop for playing multimedia from local storage and only use it for YouTube because I have nothing else that can play YouTube, and if I did have something else that could play YouTube, I'd ditch apulse since I'd be fine with a silent Firefox otherwise, and if it wasn't for Firefox, I'd ditch the GUI all together(Sadly, I can't go a day without visiting at least one website that needs Javascript to work, and the navigational hotkeys Orca adds to Firefox and other graphical web browsers are just too dang convenient and I know of no way to get an equivalent feature in text-only browsers). Maybe I'm a bit obsessed with minimalism(I was an lxde user prior to blindness, and even then, did as much from within lxterminal as I did on the desktop, had a single panel in the style of Win9x, and had no icons to mar my wallpaper), but I like having a root partition whose contents could fit uncompressed on a CD, the Pulseaudio metapackage and its dependencies weigh more than the heaviest application on my system, and I've heard nothing to suggest pulseaudio provides benefit proportionate to its size, but plenty to suggest getting it to do anything might make my life harder(Admittedly, I'm hesitant to try anything that messes with a working sound config, what with sound being my sole means of output). To each their own, but I'm quite content without it and intend to resist efforts to force me to use it for the foreseeable future. _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list