Sorry, Bryan, for misunderstanding your question. Sorry also for this very delayed response. If I can, I'd be happy to help. I appreciate the preference for local Linux access very much. It's my preference, too. As I just responded on another post in this thread, I do not currently have a Linux VM on my Mac. In fact my Mac is down at the moment, awaitin a trip to the Apple Service Center because of a bulging battery, but that's another story. I did successfully use my VMware Fedora vm with both Orca and Speakup, the latter far more successfully than the former. Let me say just a little more for now and invite you to ask specifics as you might wish. I successfully ran Firefox with Orca (and Speech-Dispatcher) in my VM. This was a couple years ago now. It was a rather brittle environment, partly because of key remappings which didn't always take, and partly because it was tricky getting in and out of the vm. Using Speakup with espeakup, on the other hand, was pretty solid. The only real issue I experienced was the same issue of getting in and out of the vm reliably. When next I look to setup Linux on my Airbook, assuming the Service Center successfully resolves my battery problem, I will focus on Speakup and console access, and may never get around to Orca and the Linux GUI. I'd actually prefer to turn the Mac into a triple-boot machine, but that's not going to happen anytime sone, as best I can tell today. The one boot loader I'm aware of that would do tripple-boot, rEFInd, doesn't appear to work with apfs, and that's where I am under High Sierra. <sigh> So, it's probably yet another vm, and I will give setting up VirtualBox the old college try when I get around to setting this up. hth Janina Linux for blind general discussion writes: > Hello Janina, > > Thanks for this reply with all your feedback. I guess I did not really pose the question correctly. I have used VMware Fusion, Virtualbox, and Parallels on my Mac. The set up was not the question I had. Someone said they use a virtual Machine running Linux on their Mac because Mac is not capable of doing what Linux is. My question was more directed to this person on how did they do what they needed to do on Linux through a virtual machine on a Mac? I use Mac every day and have for over a decade now and I know it is capable of doing whatever I need it to with no issue. What I am not able to do is use Linux through a virtual machine. The commands necessary to interact with Orca will double as system commands with or with out Voiceover enabled. Even if you map the Insert modifier which a Mac does not have to the caps lock key Orca still requires commands which will exit you from the VM window. > > If in fact someone is able to use a virtual machine on a Mac completely trhough the use of a screen reader I would really like to know how so I can configure my machine to do the same. I have about five to seven AWS instances set up to use for Linux but if I could get one running locally on my Mac in a VM I would be very happy. Again I am not at all talking about the installing of the virtual machine I am specifically talking about the configuration of the machine to remain in focus when interacting through keyboard commands. > Bryan Duarte | software engineer > > ASU Computer Science Ph.D Student > IGERT Fellow > Alliance for Person-centered Accessible Technology (APAcT) > Center for Cognitive Ubiquitous Computing (CUbiC Lab) > National Federation of the Blind of Arizona | Affiliate Board Member > National Association of Blind Students | Board Member > Arizona Association of Blind Students | President > Phone: 480-652-3045 > > > On Mar 7, 2018, at 8:06 AM, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Janina > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- Janina Sajka Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list