Thanks, it always help an aspiring accessibility specialist to know more about the disabilities ... ;) 2017-11-25 16:11 UTC−05:00, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>: > There's a fourth type of meaning to blind in English. Blind from birth. > No vision could have happened well after birth and this has > accessibility implications. People who got no vision later in life have > memory of vision those blind from birth will never have. Neither > pictures or colors mean the same thing to those blind from birth > compared to those with memory of vision in their past. > > On Sat, 25 Nov 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > >> Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 09:43:02 >> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> >> To: blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: Re: Introduction and question Linux >> >> By the way, blind don't have a double meaning in french like in >> english, are you impaired (low vision), colorblind or blind (no >> sight). >> >> What accessibility softwares and hardwares do you use ? >> >> For email you should be fine with command-line tools, for facebook >> there's a limited command line tool, pidgin with purple facebook for >> the chat only and m.facebook.com link in a web browser usually do >> well, web browsing should be fine but like you know yet it vary from a >> website to another and we barely can fix that mess, watching videos >> could be improved by command-line seem akward but mpv or vlc and >> youtube-dl allow to grab or embed video in your media player, for word >> and excel I suppose that Libre office have some accessibility but they >> won't be on par with Microsoft office, I propose to save in open >> formats since others suites could read them without issues and it will >> weaken Microsoft Office monopoly in the process and that could be a >> good thing. >> >> >> Command-line tools should be blazing fast even on old hardware but for >> a graphical desktop expect that some are a bit heavy and some apps >> being heavy while Orca using a lot the hardware, it could still have >> issues. >> >> Like said, for now it's not perfect but I know in real life a blind >> programmer and online I came around the Sonar Linux developper so it >> is at least usable to some point but both work to fix things up, I >> will probably help also soon being a major Linux community manager but >> it's hard to work everything alone while having a busy life and many >> projects running ... >> >> All my wishes, may the source be with you Linarian !!! ;) >> >> 2017-11-25 9:26 UTC?05:00, michael caron couturier <spikemcc@xxxxxxxxx>: >>> 1. Is it possible? >>> >>> Yes >>> >>> 2. Is the accessibility ok? >>> >>> Under Windows and Mac but depending of how you use it, it could have >>> some >>> gains. >>> >>> 3. Is it correct that Ubuntu mate is the best system for us? >>> >>> On Linux, there's no best, just the tool fit for you but yes Ubuntu >>> Mate is told to a bellow the average accessibility for a distribution >>> not focused on accessibility. >>> >>> 4. How do I make a usb stick to reboot my Mac with Linux? >>> >>> You could burn the iso or use a tool like Etcher for the live usb but >>> I can't tell about the accessibility of it, not a mac user, for >>> booting it, I can't tell the process on Mac hardware. >>> >>> 5. When I restart after I am in Linux, does my Mac react normal again >>> after using Linux? >>> >>> Depend, you should be able to test it as a live usb but if you try to >>> install after, you have load of things to have in mind, like having a >>> proper backup and the process on Mac hardware is probably a little bit >>> different. >>> >>> 2017-11-25 9:07 UTC?05:00, Linux for blind general discussion >>> <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>: >>>>> I would like to make the switch to Linux. >>>>> >>>>> My questions are: >>>>> 1. Is it possible? >>>> >>>> Yes! plenty of people do. I've run Linux full-time as my desktop for >>>> about a 15 years, and a mix of Windows & Linux before that. I've >>>> recently added some FreeBSD and OpenBSD into the mix for fun. >>>> >>>>> 2. Is the accessibility ok? >>>> >>>> There are plenty here who seem to think so (grin) >>>> >>>>> 3. Is it correct that Ubuntu mate is the best system for us? >>>> >>>> There are lots of flavors and it depends on your experience and >>>> likes. Fortunately, if (as you describe later) you plan not to >>>> install but rather just run it off a USB drive, you can try out a >>>> bunch of flavors and see which suit you. >>>> >>>>> 4. How do I make a usb stick to reboot my Mac with Linux? >>>> >>>> I'm a command-line guy (there might be a GUI way on the Mac, but I'm >>>> unfamiliar with it), so you'd find the device-name of your USB drive >>>> with something like >>>> >>>> gianni@my-mac$ dmesg | tail >>>> >>>> and compare the results before and after you insert the USB drive. >>>> With that device name (maybe something like "disk2"). A quick web >>>> search suggests you can also use the "diskutil" command: >>>> >>>> gianni@my-mac$ diskutil list >>>> >>>> to find it. If your Mac already mounted it, you'd have to unmount it >>>> with either >>>> >>>> gianni@my-mac$ umount /dev/disk2 >>>> >>>> (note, no "n" in "umount") or use `diskutil` >>>> >>>> gianni@my-mac$ diskutil unmountDisk /dev/disk2 >>>> >>>> Alternatively, you might be able to use "Eject" in Finder to unmount >>>> it. >>>> >>>> Once you know the name and that the USB drive isn't attached, you'd >>>> take the disk-image you downloaded and write it to the drive with the >>>> "dd" command. You might also need to use `sudo` to gain root >>>> privileges: >>>> >>>> gianni@my-mac$ sudo dd if=ubuntu_mate.img of=/dev/disk2 bs=1M >>>> >>>> Sudo should prompt you for your Mac password which you can then type. >>>> The "if" is short for "input file" and "of" is short for "output file" >>>> and the "bs" is for "block size" (which speeds things up if you >>>> read/write a megabyte at a time instead of reading/writing a single >>>> byte at a time; you can increase this to 2-4MB if you want, but I >>>> find that 1MB at a time is sufficient). >>>> >>>> I'm not sure of the magical Open Firmware command to boot a Mac from >>>> a USB drive. Another quick web-search suggests holding down the >>>> Option key when you hear the boot-chime and releasing it once the >>>> boot-manager comes up. I'm not sure how accessible the boot manager >>>> is, so you may or may not need some sighted assistance there. It >>>> should be (at least visually) apparent which boot device is which, >>>> letting you choose the USB drive instead of your internal hard-drive. >>>> >>>>> 5. When I restart after I am in Linux, does my Mac react normal >>>>> again after using Linux? >>>> >>>> Yep, as long as you didn't perform an install, it should be fine. >>>> >>>> Another alternative would be using something like Virtual Box to kick >>>> the tires within the safe confines of a virtual machine where you >>>> won't impact your host Mac. >>>> >>>> -tim >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If you run purely off the USB drive, it should reboot fine. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Blinux-list mailing list >>>> Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Micha?l Caron Couturier >>> >> >> >> -- >> Micha?l Caron Couturier >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > -- Michaël Caron Couturier _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list