Thanks for that forward, Al. It's a pile of excrement, if you'll pardon my bluntness. The most glaring error is the assertion that web content developers need to know the OS and screen readers used by a preponderance of end users. That's not the proper way to apply accessibility principles to web development. It won't get one conforming to U.S. Sec. 508 or to the international ISO WCAG standard from the W3C/WAI. Sorry, but it seems web aim missed again. Janina Linux for blind general discussion writes: > Others probably got a message like this, but I send it on for others here to > see. > > Al > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Re: Other > Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 11:56:53 -0600 > From: Jared Smith <jared@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: Al Sten-Clanton <albert.e.sten_clanton@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > Al - > > Thank you for your comments. For ease of use, we do not list every > possible screen reader or browser option for users to choose from. > This simply would be too unwieldy. Historically with our surveys Linux > users have constituted a very small percentage of respondents - > typically less than 1%, with Orca users being notably less than that. > Knowing if Orca represents .2% or .5% or respondents (for example) > isn't particularly useful for those developing web content. This > doesn't discredit this valuable tool, but it would not be useful for > us to list it and every other possible technology available for use, > so we focus on those that are most commonly used (and do list > VoiceOver in our options). > > Orca and others are captured in the "Other" response option that we provide. > > Thanks, > > Jared Smith > WebAIM.org > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Al Sten-Clanton > <albert.e.sten_clanton@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Sent from the WebAIM website at 11:32 AM, October 11th, 2017: > > > > Greetings! > > > > I just took your accessibility survey. I doubt I'm the first person to let you know that your survey should have included the screen reader Orca, which runs on Linux. I'm using it now. I use Windows 10 and JAWS daily, since my wife and I share a computer, but I do much of my computer work (and have much of my computer fun) on this Linux machine. > > > > Some accessibility issues are similar or identical on my Linux machine to those on the Windows box. Some are different. It would help a good number of us blind folks if you gathered Orca- and Linux-related data, so that developers and others can take it into account in considering how to ensure the fullest possible accessibility. > > > > Incidentally, I do not think I saw anything concerning Voiceover on the survey, either. I don't use it, but many blind people I know use it all the time. > > > > Thanks for considering my comments. I hope that future surveys will include more of the screen readers and operating systems that are or should be abailable to blind people. > > > > Al > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:janina@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Email: janina@xxxxxxxxxxx Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list