Sorry, forgot there's also blinds developpers, we could resolve the computing paradigm simply as a blend of older paradigms (tv, radio, typewriter, cd player, cellphone, ...). What I mean, we didn't evolved much, it's more a stepping stone than the major shift coming from fire or wheel. Usability is following a bit the baby duck syndrome making us prefer the interface we learned first, that's why computing interfaces borrow ideas for previous tools we had, in some aspects it's good but sometimes it draw us from a more efficient way to do. 2017-10-06 23:27 UTC−04:00, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>: > I didn't know we used tape deck buttons as icons. > I've never seen an icon. :) > >> On Oct 6, 2017, at 9:42 PM, Linux for blind general discussion >> <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Well, >> >> sometimes reinventing the wheel isn't making something new but a shift >> of current paradigms, like how we still use vhs player/tape deck >> buttons as icons in operating systems. >> >> For Sonar/Vinux, I was behind the scene for a while, I jumped in when >> they a merge or a collaboration between the two was put public but I >> leave it be, I can't give out straight my ideas and they don't catch >> that I may have ideas to fix all this mess once and for all, just >> found how I could achieve my path so I may try soon.(either live-build >> or refracta) >> >> I put Colord in a tray, it could answer some apps design issues but >> for the custom desktop I plan to build, it will be useless by default. >> >> Your ideas are noted, I may have a trick in my sleeve to implement one >> later quite easily. >> >> 2017-10-06 5:11 UTC−04:00, Linux for blind general discussion >> <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>: >>> Howdy Mike, >>> >>>> I'm conceiving a Linux distribution with accessibility >>> Awsome :) idea! But I wonder if it is not more efficient to join the >>> vinux or sonar team and increase their manpower and implement missing >>> features insteed of reainvent the wheel over and over? >>> Sonar (it seems the offical site is down currently): >>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/sonargnulinux/ >>> vinux: >>> http://vinuxproject.org/ >>> >>>> designing a colorblind/impaired accessible >>>> interface with nice aesthetics >>> does this mean that you want to create your own Destkop environment? >>> About colorblind, maybe you are interested in colord. its an color >>> management serverice using ICC profiles. maybe its useful to make >>> red/green or grayscale ICC profiles using your desktop (and would have >>> the nice side effect thats also useable on other desktops as well). >>> Just an idea. >>> https://www.freedesktop.org/software/colord/ >>> >>>> I’d like to know what features most people would want. Any suggestions >>>> are welcome, but I won’t promise I’ll implement them. :) >>> Maybe an stand alone Magnification tool would be awsome :). I also >>> remember that there was also a need to have a tool for "hands free" >>> desktop control for people with motoric problems using at-spi, eye >>> tracking and voice control (in fact there is nothing useful >>> currently). I wanted to start working on last one but could not find >>> the time currently, but its still on my Todo list (like too many other >>> things lol). >>> >>> cheers chrys >>> >>> Zitat von Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>: >>> >>>> Hello everybody out there using Linux – >>>> >>>> I'm conceiving a Linux distribution with accessibility and some >>>> assistive technology, designing a colorblind/impaired accessible >>>> interface with nice aesthetics, I did a few tests and it ended just as >>>> expected, this alone may bring Linux to beat Mac os X on accessibility >>>> side, >>>> >>>> It will be on top of Debian with apt-pinning for development purposes, >>>> the 3 branches and the packages locking feature, will be used to allow >>>> developpers to easily replicate bugs to fix them, allowing a >>>> pseudo-versionning system at the same time, used the setup a while, >>>> overall it was a breeze. >>>> >>>> My next aim would be to trim the system, hoping to be able to use a >>>> window manager or a light desktop manager with accessibility tools, >>>> accessibility reports of desktop environments, window managers and >>>> softwares would be useful. >>>> >>>> At this point, I could slowly make a working setup, the issue is to >>>> create the iso with a decent installer, name/logo/design is thinked >>>> yet, so I mostly lack a coder and a graphist, otherwise it goes way >>>> above what I expected for now. >>>> >>>> I also have a load of ideas I could implement later but understand >>>> that the Debian focus don't mean it will be locked to it. >>>> >>>> I’d like to know what features most people would want. Any suggestions >>>> are welcome, but I won’t promise I’ll implement them. :) >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> Note : Didn't knew the rules for linking the project or contact >>>> informations so I didn't put anything to identify it and myself for >>>> now ... >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Blinux-list mailing list >>>> Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blinux-list mailing list >>> Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> >> >> -- >> Michaël Caron Couturier >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- Michaël Caron Couturier _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list