Re: Installing Fedora and other Linux systems

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The reason people don't know what they are doing is Fedora isn't all that well documented from an accessibility installation perspective yet. I hope the message I sent here before this message goes a little way toward providing some documentation.

On Fri, 30 Jun 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 13:07:49
From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Installing Fedora and other Linux systems

Fedora is very workable, if you know how to work it. There's no
intrinsic problem with Fedora, except that it's rather hard to install
without sighted assistance. Or perhaps I should say it's significantly
harder to install for people who don't know what they're doing. There
are distributions that intentionally and actively support installation
by blind users, but Fedora isn't one of them. That's all.

Actually, Fedora is a great choice in many ways.

Janina

Linux for blind general discussion writes:
Helllo sense fedora isn;t workable what is vinux going to use? last I heard
vinux was going to use fedora.

thanks

Hank



On 6/29/2017 8:14 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Should I be looking for an Everything fedora torrent?  I found some of
those and didn't know what to make of them.

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 23:03:05
From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Installing Fedora and other Linux systems

Well, if you're getting confused by the Talking Arch install, I would
recommend you stay away from Fedora for now.


Talking Arch is designed to be blind friendly. Fedora is not. So, save
Fedora for another day--for a day when you know more about Linux and how
to work with it.

Just my advice, which you're free to do with as you will, of course.

Janina

Linux for blind general discussion writes:
I use the Talking arch iso. I've tried installing it, but I
always get stuck on one part or another, like setting the clock,
partitioning the drive, such like that. What I plan to do is
dualboot Windows and Linux, so I can have Emacspeak and the
Windows audio games and such as well. I'll also try installing
Linux, probably Arch this time, using a flash drive which I am
100." sure that it'll work, as my old one didn't even work in
Windows, so I think it's gone rather bad.

Devin Prater

Assistive Technology Instructor in training at World Services
for the BLIND, JAWS certified

On Jun 29, 2017 9:21 AM, Linux for blind general discussion
<blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I don't understand why you have trouble installing Arch. Are you using
the especially adapted talking arch iso image? If installing
arch, this
is the one you should be using.

https://talkingarch.tk

Installing Fedora is actually more difficult. Particularly
tricky is the
stage of installation where you partition your drive--unless you're
happy to take Fedora's defaults. Personally, I don't support that
default simply because I find it wise to put /home on a separate
partition--but maybe you wouldn't care. That's certainly up to you.

As to what may have gone wrong in your Fedora installation, you've not
nearly enough info in your email. How do you know nothing
went wrong in
the install? What messages did you see?

And, how do you know it's not booting? What is it you expect
that isn't
happening? I'm presuming you're blind so aren't seeing
screens. So, how
do you know what you think you know?

I'm not trying to be harsh. But your message really isn't explaining
anything useful for debugging.

PS: It will also be easier to follow your explanation if you
can manage
to avoid run-on sentences.

Janina

Linux for blind general discussion writes:
Hi all. After using Windows for a month, after using
Linux for two months, I've noticed that everything that
I do on Windows, I could do on Windows, and with the
Braille note Touch, I can get the Exchange emails from
the training center I'm attending, which mainly uses
Windows. So, while in Windows, I burned a USB drive with
the latest Fedora image, using Rufus, making it
bootable. So, The installation went well, but after the
computer restarted, and the flash drive was taken out,
no system came up. I've never seen that happen before,
and Googling didn't give any answers, so I'm stuck
between Vinux, and Arch. Vinux being okay I suppose, but
out of date, and Arch being hard for me to install,
without scripts although the ones I know of are broken,
but Arch is what I like, because it has anything I ask
of it. So I tried installing Fedora a few more times,
formatting the drive, but no luck. Then I accidentally
pulled the flash drive out of the USB drive for a
moment, and wh
en I pus
hed
  i
  t back in, I couldq't load Orca when first starting up
the installer, so the data on that drive is probably
corrupted. So, any ideas? Should I just go with Vinux
and deal with it? The last time I tried the instructions
for installing Arch, I got stuck on setting the clock
and such, because the results I got were not the results
on the ge, so I'm just not sure what to do.

Devin Prater

Assistive Technology Instructor in training at World
Services for the BLIND, JAWS certified

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