As much as I think every web "standard" aside from vanilla HTML should be avoided unless absolutely necessary(and even then, why use HTML if plain text can get the job done?), I agree it's a necessary evil to have the means of dealing with pages made by those who put eye candy and fancy layouts before content and ease of use(seriously, some websites make me wonder if whoever designed the UI even knows what a keyboard is). I mean, in web terms, JavaScript is as old as dirt, yet as far as I know, there is no text mode browser with even partial javascript support, and while I have NoScript in my Firefox to block all that JavaScript that likes to trip up Orca, some sites are completely unusable without the monstrosity. Anyways, as Aptitude isn't getting any hit for clifox even after adding contrib and non-free to my sources.list, mind providing a link to more information or perhaps a link to download a development build? I suspect a hypothetical modern text browser with it's own backend would be much smaller, but being able to use Firefox from the terminal and get rid of Orca and what of my xserver Firefox doesn't force me to install would definitely be a step in the right direction as far as I'm concerned. -- Sincerely, Jeffery Wright President Emeritus, Nu Nu Chapter, Phi Theta Kappa. Former Secretary, Student Government Association, College of the Albemarle. _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list