How are your YouTube experiences?
There are several player options of course. Just wondering how it has
worked for you?
streaming audio if you prefer?
Speaking of vocal eyes. it is not what I use, but I do wonder what will
happen tot the program now that gw micro is shutting down shop so to speak?
Karen
On Thu, 1 Jun 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
The solution I've been using for years is to use my DOS machine running Telix, a vt100
terminal emulator and Vocal Eyes screen reader.
Then I just connect to my local linux box using a null modem cable and from
there run screen for multiple consoles.
Linux does all the heavy lifting including mplayer, lynx, ssh to
remote accounts etc.
The best part of this mode of operation is that all linux
consoles feel the same. Regardless whether they are on my local
box, on my Panix shell account, or on a remote work server.
And as was pointed out, I can control all the speech controls from my
main keyboard.
On Thu, Jun 01, 2017 at 04:02:42PM -0400, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
If two local computers are available with one running dos and a compatible
screen reader and a user is willing and able to work in the console it's
possible with a null modem cable and a program like kermit or commo on the
dos machine to connect to the other computer running linux and have all
console output redirected out the linux serial port to the dos box. I did
this once with only one version of linux and the information on how to do
that is in one of linux-howtos serial howto files.
On Thu, 1 Jun 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 14:03:36
From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: living in the console.
I am not.
since none of the Linux speech sources currently support my synthesizer,
it is not like I can just buy a system.
That means having one built and configured locally..something I did not
think would be such an issue. I mean I do it regularly for DOS when I
find a later edition of DOS that gives me something needful. My
present dos package for example is only a few years old comparatively
speaking, has full USB
support, networking etc. However I have been trying to find local talent
for the Linux side for more than a decade now, almost 15 years or so I
imagine.
User groups tend to have a laid back perspective if they can be found.
clear, fundamental and step by step information in basic but informative
detail does not exist, let alone in person training.
I even had someone try to install Linux to a drive and send it, only not
to have Linux support any of the hand picked hardware, or for that
person to have included any way to reach the internet...I am serious.
I would ssh telnet into the box just like I do for Shellworld which is
now running Ubuntu 16.04, or my dreamhost setup for work which is not
as current.
I have no problem doing that at all, but the box must exist setup to my
specifications, I intend using it for music making and media..which
means in person real skill. long distance has simply produced amusing
efforts with no progress.
My favorite local effort was when someone building a machine for me
showed up with a live disk prepared to introduce me to Linux.
They popped in the cd and we waited...and waited...and waited lol!
besides, I think speekup still puts all the controls on one side of the
keyboard, not using the full thing, which for me personally is counter
productive.
My present screen readers, all of the ones on my machine actually, let
me get information without ever taking my hands off the keys unless I
need to review.
Most important though since all software speech makes me dizzy is the
need to keep the voice I have with whatever I am using.
Long answer to as short comment,
Kare
On Thu, 1 Jun 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
If you're in the market for a linux laptop,
http://www.thinkpenguin.com/ is one good source.
On Thu, 1 Jun 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 09:57:30
From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: living in the console.
which is why I am going to find one on line somewhere.
I have no actual Linux box myself.
Kare
On Wed, 31 May 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Oh I think there is a file somewhere called setup.exe or
edbrowse-setup > or something like that.
Sorry it has been many years since I did the setup.
The readme file will tell you all about it.
On May 31, 2017, at 10:26 PM, Linux for blind general
discussion > <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Well it must require more because when I tried visiting
paypal I just > got a series of numbers and a blank page.
Even trying for a help menu produced the question, are you
looking for > business solutions?
Granted we may not have it fully configured here at shellworld.
Will hunt some sort of manual and try again,
Kare
On Wed, 31 May 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
If you mean to browse something just type:
edbrowse url
or
edbrowse file
Then you can use the same commands as ed.
edbrowse is also an email reader/sender and other
stuff. I love it.
On May 30, 2017, at 5:08 PM, Linux for blind
general discussion > > <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Out of curiosity, what is the syntax for ebrowse?
We have it here at shellworld...I think, and I wish to test
something.
Karen
On Fri, 26 May 2017, Linux for blind general
discussion wrote:
Edbrowse may help for web browsing alonggg with
surfraw-heavy.
Sent from BlueMail for iPhone
On May 25, 2017 at 7:18 PM, Linux for blind general
discussion > > > <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Tim here
Mark Peveto wrote
Over the last couple days or so, I've considered becoming a totally
command line linux user.
I'm mostly there. Web browsing is the big hurdle
for much of my
day-to-day use. Lynx/links/elinks work for many things, but some
sites just need a fully modern-standards-supporting browser.
How would I print to my printer for example,
It depends on what you want to print, but it
usually involves piping
things to the "lp" ("line printer") program. It can be
configured to
use CUPS on the back end (and may already be configured out of the
box for you).
Getting fancier output would involve rendering some
sort of markup.
There are tools to render HTML, LaTeX, PDFs, and even > >
Word/LibreOffice
docs from the command-line to the printer.
I don't know what you want to print, but I suspect
it can be done in
most cases.
play an entire album from my music collection.
It depends on your tastes, but there are literally
dozens of music
players. Some, such as mpg123/mpg312/aplay/ogg123 allow you to
specify just the files you want on the command line and
it will play
them. Others, like mplayer are similar but give you a little more
control over playback.
There's also mpd/mpc which is the Music Player
Daemon/Client that
runs in the background and doesn't really have a GUI. The mpd
program runs in the background and the mpc program acts like a
remote-control, letting you create/edit playlists,
control playback,
etc. I like the remote-control aspect as I can map them to
particular keys on my keyboard or aliases in the shell
and have > > > quick
access to common commands with my media-keys.
Personally, I use "cmus" which has a text-mode GUI
but also has a
remote-control interface like mpd/mpc. I start up tmux and have a
pane for my alsamixer and cmus which lets me flip between
them > > > pretty
readily. It allows me to make play-lists, search my collection,
shuffle, etc, much like you'd be familiar with in a
graphical > > > player.
How, also, would I create documents in
something beyond text
format?
usually it's done with a markup that suits your
tastes. I personally
have been writing HTML by hand since college in the mid
90s so > > > that's
what I reach for. But other people like TeX/LaTeX (it does produce
some beautiful output and also has external library
support for > > > things
like music markup letting you write scores) while other people like
some of the more light-weight markup languages like Markdown or RST
or the like.
I'd kick the tires on a few and see what feels
natural to you.
Fortunately, there's a tool called "pandoc" that lets you convert
between a large number of input/output formats so you can write in
Markdown and convert to PDF, or write in HTML and convert
to MS-Word
format, or write in LaTeX and convert to ePub with
minimal loss. And
it outputs any of them in plain-text (though you may lose some
information in the process since plain-text doesn't support many
features as you've acknowledged)
How does one ditch the guy, and still enjoy all
linux has to offer
in the console?
One program at a time (grins). So much like each of
the items above,
it's a matter of asking "I currently do XYZ in the GUI
but would > > > like
to do XYZ in the console" for whatever XYZ is your next adventure.
I maintain a page listing a number of common
command-line tools:
http://tim.thechases.com/posts/cli/software-for-a-command-line-world/
that can point you in the direction of various
applications to try
out. Some might drive you crazy while others might fit your brain
just right. They should all be free and are likely in most software
repos, so it doesn't cost you anything except a little time to try
each one out.
I'm willing to learn how to do this, but who ever
decides to help
me is gonna hafta be patient.
The folks on this list are a pretty friendly &
patient bunch, so
we'll be glad to help where we can.
-tim
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