With the Mac, if you wait a minute or two after start up, a message comes up asking if you’d like to start Voiceover. Think about that approach for a while. -- Sent from Discordia using Gnus for Emacs. Email: r.d.t.prater@xxxxxxxxx Long days and pleasant nights! Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: > Tony Baechler here. > > I have two major problems with this argument, namely what Chris says > in that Talking Arch should be a separate project. I feel strongly > that speech and Braille should be part of all boot media for all > mainstream distros unless it wouldn't be practical, such as for very > small systems or due to space limitations on the boot media. > > First, I guess it's just me, but pressing a key or two at the boot > prompt really isn't a big deal. My boot loader lets me pick what OS I > want to boot. I have to press a number for the partition I want. If > you use GRUB and want to boot into recovery mode, you press the down > arrow, whether you're blind or sighted. If you want to boot a custom > Linux kernel command line, you type it in. Pressing the letter "s" and > Enter to start speech in Debian and Slackware is hardly what I would > call an inconvenience. Granted, I agree that I would rather not have > to press aspecial keys, but if it keeps most people happy (the sighted > don't want speech) and allows an accessible install, it's fine with > me. > > The second major problem I have is that unless I'm mistaken, it's > still impossible for the blind to install Windows without help. Much > of it can be automated and maybe Win10 has Narrator during the > install, I'm not sure. The point is speech doesn't start automatically > and there are far more keys to randomly press to get speech. In the > past, I had someone install Windows for me before I could install a > screen reader. One area where Linux shines is there are distros which > only require a key or two at boot to have a fully talking installer > which is identical to what the sighted use. Even the Mac can't do > that, although one can start VoiceOver during the installation. > > On 4/24/2017 8:21 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: >> Kelly Prescott here. >> It takes a lot of effort to make a boot environment talk... I know, because >> that is what I am working on. >> I am not speaking of Linux, I am speaking of a boot loader. >> When I finish my boot loader, then it might be realistic to have a normal >> arch cd with some boot options. >> Until that happens, I agree with Chris. I don't like to boot and guess what >> to type and when. > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list