Tony, your dad sounds a few orders of magnitude more tech savvy than my dad, though considering my dad is older than ENIAC, maybe it's a bit unfair of me to use my dad as my reference model of a non-power user. Still, my dad can turn the thing on, use a web browser, play solitaire, turn it off, and that's about it. Back when I could see well enough to assist him with computer problems, I spent more time keeping his aging XP machine in working order than I spent dealing with bugs running development versions of Ubuntu, and since my vision got too poor to assist him, I've lost count of how many times he's put his computer in the shop, and he's at least once bought an entirely new tower because of software issues(I believe it was a forced update to Win 10 borking a Win7 machine). Even setting everything up myself including many of the cross-platform applications he was using under Windows, I've never gotten a Linux configuration to a point he'd give it a fair chance, and I'm pretty sure Win95 was his first exposure to anything more sophisticated than Frogger on the Atari 2600. As for talking Arch, it sounds like a smaller change to vanilla Arch than Kubuntu, Xubuntu, or Lubuntu are to vanilla Ubuntu, and one almost has to wonder why whoever is in charge of Arch doesn't make it an official flavor. -- Sincerely, Jeffery Wright President Emeritus, Nu Nu Chapter, Phi Theta Kappa. Former Secretary, Student Government Association, College of the Albemarle. _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list