>>>>> "John" == John G Heim <jheim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: John> If you are going to install debian yourself, basically what John> you want to do is to unselect the graphical user interface John> when it gets to the page where you select software to John> install. And then after you are finished with the install, use John> apt to install the graphical user interface as a separate John> step. I've done this many times myself but not for a year or John> so and my memory is a little fuzzy. I think the gui (or it John> might be called the desktop) is item 10 or 11 and it is John> selected by default. You have to unselect it and then continue This sounds rightish. Also, Note that if you do the install with speech enabled, you are very likely to have speech after the reboot. John> John> with the install. After it finishes and you reboot, it will be John> in character mode. I think you can then install the gui by John> simply typing "apt-get install gnome-orca". That will install John> orca, gnome, and all of their dependencies. You can then start John> the gui by typing "startx". That will sort of work, but you will get a remarkably broken gnome. It turns out it's kind of challenging these days to get a desktop without a display manager. I might install and then disable the display display manager: apt-get install gnome systemctl disable gdm3 alternatively you can get some significant chunks of gnome with apt-get install gnome-session libreoffice firefox libreoffice-gnome gnome-orca --Sam _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list