I never have needed to change my boot order on this machine, as it has an option to press f8 to bring up the boot menu, from which I can use the arrow keys to select the device to boot, the USB drive usually being at the bottom of the list, and the CD/DVD drive usually being second from the top. As the list is not circular, I am able to find the correct device to boot without seeing anything. On the other hand, there was a time when I needed to activate virtualization so that I could run KVM. I use it to run things like the latest TalkingArch iso for testing in a virtual environment as well as for testing and building Sonar. In order to change my virtualization settings, I would have probably needed someone with eyeballs to make things go more quickly, but no one was available, and I usually don't have easy access to eyeballs. So the obvious solution was to use Google Goggles on my Android phone. It took a bit of time, but I did get the virtualization turned on with only assistive technology to help me, no functional eyeballs whatsoever. I also don't ask anyone to read my mail for me. I also use the free Goggles app on my phone to do that. Sure, Google is probably collecting some information, but it's actually easier than trying to find someone with eyeballs every time I get a letter in my mailbox. The latest example of such usage of Google Goggles was my perfectly flat Google Wallet card, which I had Google read to me. I figured since it's a Google product anyway, they already have the information they need/want, so there appeared to be no additional risk in getting Google to read their own product. In any case, I have decent enough access to most things that people normally have to find eyeballs for these days with a single free Android app, and there are others as well for detecting things like money. Having said this, there is certainly a need for accomodations to be made so that I am able to do the same things without needing either eyeballs or a camera, so I still do as little business as possible using paper, and I push to get electronic or phone-based correspondence as much as possible, to the point that I even left my state's chapter of the Council of the blind, because they had no way of registering for their convention using an online payment system or any other method I was able to use on my own, and this was after PayPal came to rule the online payment market and anyone with an e-mail address could take PayPal payments. Imagine that. An organization that makes a big deal about advertising the idea that they are supposed to be dedicated to making it easier for blind and visually impaired people to do things for ourselves telling me that I needed to get someone to help me write a check or fill in a money order and mail it to them, and refusing to even take a PayPal payment. So yeah, I quit the organization, because I knew by their deeds that they weren't really doing what they said they were doing. Sent from my punch bowl _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list