as far as talking installs go if u grab an older version of ubuntu it will install on a 512mb machine. though ti runs 3 legged. however. vinux might be a better option. tis easy to install if u have space on yr hd or want to install on a memory pen to try it out. ther is also the live version. not sure about this debian installer. debian wheezy installs straight out of the box using speakup in a console install and is highly automatable. the partitioning can be bloody fiddly though. as an aside if u just want to try oulinux and dont want to risk trashing yr pc u could have a look at raspberry/banana/cubie etc. whre u can just grab an image and stick it on a a memory pen. other options are archlinux. where u can downlaod a small image and then go from there which u could do using ssh/putty etc. dont give up on linux. its a bumpier ride but a more rewarding one! that said the orca/iceweasel/firefox combo is a pretty good one for browsing the web. ta neil foster On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 04:40:29PM -0400, Al Sten-Clanton wrote: > I don't remember the exact link, but it's easy to find the thing from > > www.debian.org > > one of the easier sites I've found to use. > > Al > > On 8/18/2015 3:23 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote: > > Hello > > where can I get the talking debian installer? > > also my laptop has 4 gigs of ram it is a quad core processor > > Hank > > > > On 8/18/2015 12:18 PM, John G Heim wrote: > >> The behaviour you describe is similar to what I got when I tried to > >> install ubuntu 15.04 on a machine with less than 1Gb of memory. I > >> believe officially, you need only 512Mb but I don't think you can run > >> the GUI installer and orca with less than 1Gb. > >> > >> If it was me, I'd try the talking debian installer. Even if it's not > >> the amount of RAM you have, the talking debian installer is more > >> failure proof. > >> > >> > >> On 08/18/2015 11:36 AM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote: > >>> I also forgot to mention in my last message that I also tried going to > >>> the gparted program from mate itself using the alt f 1 and going to > >>> system tools, if memory serves that is where it is located > >>> it then launches and the same behavior happens as described in last > >>> email that I sent out. > >>> once again I am not trying to miss spread info but I have trying to > >>> figure this stuff out for several weeks and am about to give up on linux > >>> intirely I really don't want to cause I really like the stuff that linux > >>> offers the blind comunity > >>> thanks > >>> Hank > >>> > >>> On 8/18/2015 2:23 AM, Tony Baechler wrote: > >>>> Well, if what you're saying is true, how was I able to do a complete > >>>> install by myself without help and why have other people on the Orca > >>>> list had the same success? I'm sorry, but you're spreading > >>>> misinformation. Please don't do that. If you're having problems, > >>>> please ask or do some research, but please don't assume that Ubuntu, > >>>> MATE or Orca are automatically at fault. In this case, you didn't > >>>> press Super-S when the DVD booted, so Orca didn't start > >>>> automatically. You shouldn't be running the partition manager with > >>>> Alt-F1 or Alt-F2 regardless. You should get a message spoken when you > >>>> press Super-S telling you that the screen reader is running. This is > >>>> clearly documented on the Ubuntu accessibility wiki page. The super > >>>> key is also known as the Windows key. If Super-S doesn't work, try > >>>> Super-Alt-S. Also, no, it doesn't run Terminal at all during the > >>>> installation. Orca speaks great in the terminal, even as root with > >>>> sudo. > >>>> > >>>> On 8/17/2015 10:42 AM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote: > >>>>> Hello you may want to give ubuntu mate a try? > >>>>> how ever you are unable to run the partition manager when you alt f 1 > >>>>> and go > >>>>> to the respective program to run it. > >>>>> think it is running mate terminal wich causes orca to stop speaking > >>>>> have yet > >>>>> to find a fix for this wich is causing me to have second thoughts on > >>>>> ubuntu > >>>>> mate and mate as a hole have had nothing but problems with it. > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Blinux-list mailing list > >>>> Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Blinux-list mailing list > >>> Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >>> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > . _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list