Hi Tim,
On Tue, 23 Dec 2014, Tim Chase wrote:
From a user perspective, the experience of using Linux and FreeBSD
aren't all that distinct. I can't think of any user-land utilities
for the command-line that run on FreeBSD but not on Linux (the
administrative tools vary, but that would be expected). There are
some I've encountered that will run on Linux but not the BSDs.
Since this box is supposed to serve a specific focus, media /composition
etc., I am less concerned with user utilities, save t hose associated with
browsers, perhaps some that I know exist in both like antiword and unrtf.
Linux does support more high end sound cards, those that can capture as
well as perform playback.
I would never want to use my sound card for speech, even if I cared for it
which I firmly do not.
> I can't blame you on the software speech thing as I find it tiring in
long doses. At least with the freely available synths (the voices on
my old Macbook were much easier to tolerate). Do you prefer hardware
synths, braille output, or some other method of access?
Firmly hardware, and dectalk hardware to be specific.
I have two reading edges, I always keep a spare. My main DOS speech is
business vision, and I do not believe Linux has a direct browser for reading
edge speech regardless.
I have three dectalk express units which would have been the synthesizer for the
debian box had the rest come together.
However since I can ssh TELNET into shellworld using Dos and access all
the command line tools here with that speech, I cannot imagine why the ssh
TELNET process will not
work the other way into whatever this box becomes.
> Also, if you like the SSH shell access like you
currently have
but > want to move to a platform that you control and can install software
that you want to, you might want to check out something like a
Raspberry Pi. It sips power, is $35 (plus costs for a case, SD card,
and power adaptor, but still totals under $50 in my experience), and
can give you headless access like you currently have to shellworld
in addition to the ability to install whatever software you like.
Nothing personal, but I have zero reason to buy a box for a platform that
has yet to prove worth investing in otherwise.
Perhaps in time, but first things first, being able to do something with
the Linux box presently holding up the speakers for my DOS one.
I am fortunate to have a fine computer tech who can build units from
scratch...he works for the motherboard people, aMD? As an electrical
engineer.
I am told the things I would install in part already exist in debian, a
program for music work, with the others existing in both Linux and
freebsd. aS they are 100% command line, I should be fine once I can access
the box...something I have been working on for almost three years at least
lol.
Kare
>
-tim
On December 23, 2014, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Hi there,
Thanks for all the rich and varied answers.
My goal if I did this would indeed be running the freebsd box
remotely and using ssh telnet to access it. In a way I would be
mirroring what I do daily <hourly? lol, here at shellworld which is
based on freebsd. I had intended doing the same with a debian box,
but am still unable to find anyone local to Toronto who can correct
adjust and confirm he network configuration on the unit.
I find programs often that are command line and coded for freebsd
that I would welcome trying.
Their may be comparative ones for debian too, but the support
leaves a grand deal to be desired.
I strongly dislike software speech, and speakup is not my idea of a
screen reader.
I would rather experiment with creating a comparative structure to
what I already know works then branching out as I got more
practice. The computer tech who builds & maintains my DOS machines
knows nothing much about Linux, but a clean freebsd install might
be fun for him. beats staying stuck without being able to try the
items I desire. thanks for your answer,
Karen
On Tue, 23 Dec 2014, Kyle wrote:
I've wanted to play with FreeBSD or another sort of *real* BSD
that hasn't been tainted by Apple for quite a few years. However,
I am stopped thus far by a lack of a fully functional screen
reader. GhostBSD is really nice, as it is said to run the MATE
desktop now, but the problem is that Orca doesn't speak because
of a Python conflict that causes it to fail to talk to
speech-dispatcher. This would limit me to the command line, where
the only full-featured screen readers run on Linux only as far as
I am aware. Speakup is a set of modules that are specific to the
Linux kernel, and SBL as far as I know only runs on Linux. The
only other choice then would be YASR, which is rather old and is
probably unmaintained now, and runs as a subshell rather than as
a system daemon, so one must login without speech and run the YSR
subshell manually in order to get a somewhat decent screen reader
for only a single virtual console. This isn't really a problem if
you intend to run your FreeBSD machine remotely over ssh or
telnet, but it makes running it directly on your machine next to
impossible. Please do correct me if I happen to be wrong, as I
would immediately try to set it up here, at least on a virtual
machine, and I could then support BSD as well as Linux in the
computer business that I run. -- "Don't judge my disability until
you are able to see my ability." ~ Kyle: https://kyle.tk/ My
chunk of the internet: https://chunkhost.com/r/Kyle
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