Dude, why are you bringing up a debate everyone agreed to disagree about
weeks ago?
On 07/01/14 09:10, Jude DaShiell wrote:
Only if windows browsers and windows are the only software and operating
systems permitted to connect to the internet.
On Mon, 16 Jun 2014, John G. Heim wrote:
But access for all doesn't mean a web site has to support all browsers. You
have a right to use whatever browser yu like but a web site doesn't have to
work with your choice of browser. By no means do I mean to criticize your
decision to stick with speakup and lynx but that's a decision you've made. You
can't expect web sites to accomodate your decision.
Notethat what I say above is not the same (logically) as saying that it's okay
for web designers to write for specific browsers. That's not what I am saying
and logically, it's not the same thing. As a practical matter, your choice of
browser and screen reader will always be limited by the technical issues
involved with making sites accessible. Web designers have a right to code
their sites for browsers that are kept up to date technically.
On 06/13/2014 11:23 PM, Hart Larry wrote:
Wow, I suppose we in Linux may need our own version of a Civil Rights Bill.
HEheHEheHEheHE
Ther is a large Grocery chain which was involved in a settlement-and-just
upgraded, or supposedly made its site accessible to all shoppers.
Until March of 2010 I was able to shop this site in Linux, maybe not
perfect, but if I were careful I filled out everything fine. Beginning in
April 2010, no matter which Linux browser or JAWS I couldn't shop any more.
In their separate access site, their help FAQ said they did not use any
complicated scripting such as javascript or css, however, in the
source-code, there they were.
Well, now April 30 has come-and-gone, I still cannot shop in either L Y N X
or E L I N K S. When shopping by eile I notice items in a catagory, but none
of them have any links to add to my cart.
So today intouch with a CSR, who found it, I can try chrome vox or fire vox.
I tried looking for these with an "apt-get" in Debian, cannot find. Are
these only for graphical browsers such as in an x11 display?
I was told that w3c requirements may give them choices of either html,
javascript, or css?
So if they are permitted to write a site which would not work for many
users, if they were picking 2 of those 3 choices, how is that access for
all?
So many times especially during the last 2years, an onis is always on myself
to possibly run windows or maybe ask asistance of some1 running a graphical
setup.
From what I hear, L Y N X will maybe never have javascript support.
So what happens next? If indeede the standards give site owners leeway in
leaving out a group of users, as well as a potential revenue loss. Or even
worse, what happens if they drop delivery because of lack of shoppers?
Thanks alot for listening-and-I welcom all of your ideas-and-suggestions.
I did try Orca many years ago but it was `quite slow, but also even in
Speakup in software speech, the volume was lo in I B M tts. I am running
Speakup with a DecTalk U S B.
Hart
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