Hi, Janina: As far as I can recall, I've always booted into the graphical environment. I think I tried to kill the gnome desktop as a whole oly once, and whatever I did was wrong and seemed to have no bearing on when I lost my talking login. I regularly kill and restart Orca, and sometimes gnome-terminal or Thunderbird, because speech commonly wipes out for reasons I have not figured out. Again, though, there seems to be no connection between that and losing the talking login. The only thing I can correlate with the disappearance and later reappearance of the talking login is that each event followed a Fedora 20 update. (I don't think this problem occurred earlier: earlier, at least twice, there was the problem of Speakup getting out of sync with the updates.) I'm sorry I don't have more light to shed on this thing. Al -----Original Message----- From: blinux-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:blinux-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 11:55 PM To: Linux for blind general discussion Subject: Re: gdm talking login is back for me in Fedora 20 Hi, Al: My experience has been that it isn't there consistently. If you boot directly into the graphical environment, I do believe you will have talking GDM. If, however, for any reason you find it necessary to restart the desktop, you will not have it unless you kill speech-dispatcher after shutting the desktop down, e.g.: systemctl stop gdm killall speech-dispatcher systemctl start gdm I'd be interested in your experience with restarts, as I believe this is a bug that should probably be filed against gdm. It should be trivial for gdm to check for an existing speech-dispatcher--which will be owned by another user, so won't function for gdm. gdm should be able to manage a restart of speech-dispatcher, however, to clear this up. Janina Al Sten-Clanton writes: > I did an update yesterday. On rebooting this morning, I got the > pleasant surprise of the talking login's return. I have no idea what > killed it a couple of months or what brought it back to life today, > but I'm glad its back. > > Al > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:janina@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Email: janina@xxxxxxxxxxx Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf Indie UI http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/ _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list