pj@xxxxxxxxxx writes: ... > Tim Chase wrote: > > Upon playing with "stevie" it seems that it doesn't actually support > > "open mode", > > http://nosuch.com/tjt/stevie says it was last updated in 1988... > > > but "elvis" (another vi clone) does. > > bash$ elvis myfile.txt > > :open > > or you can specify that you want to use open mode at the command-line: > > bash$ elvis -G open myfile.txt > > which you can alias with > > alias evi='elvis -G open' > > to make it easier. > > Yup, that's nice, that's a serious candidate for vi users :-) > It does chew up screen-space, so if you need to copy-and-paste > anything into your file you'd better do that at the beginning > of the editing-session, and under yasr there is no key-echo > so you'd better touch-type well, but, yeah, it looks good. > > vibe is now too far advanced for me to abandon it, but > elvis -G open is my default recommendation for ageing vi-users. > Full disclosure, please. Your choice seems to be predicated on the quaint preference for yasr. I call it quaint as Speakup is such a better console screen reader choice, that I can only conclude you've some kind of Speakup allergy. Am I wrong? Because none of this is a problem for those of us who use vim all day long with Speakup, not the copy and past mentioned here, nor the business about extraneous speech mentioned earlier in this thread. Janina > On debian, the package is > aptitude install elvis-console > > Thanks Tim, > > Peter > > http://www.pjb.com.au pj@xxxxxxxxxx (03) 6278 9410 > "Follow the charge, not the particle." -- Richard Feynman > from The Theory of Positrons, Physical Review, 1949 > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:janina@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Email: janina@xxxxxxxxxxx Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf Indie UI http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/ _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list