-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 OK, there are a couple of issues here. First, never, never ever use plain telnet. I repeat, never use plain telnet! It is not secure and deprecated. I'm surprised and disappointed that Shellworld still supports it. Always use ssh, even if you give up some convenience. It's good to have telnet on your system, but remember that everything you send is in plain text over the wire, so it's trivial for attackers to get your passwords, read your mail, etc. Even DOS apparently has an ssh client. There is no excuse to not use ssh anymore. Absolutely stay away from telnet and rlogin. With that said, the reason for the up arrow problem is that telnet isn't recognizing your terminal type. You can try "tset vt100" to fix this, but with ssh, it passes your terminal information when it connects, so you shouldn't have the issue. On Shellworld, the problem could be that they're using a BSD variant which doesn't seem to support readline out of the box. You could also try "tset linux" and see if that helps. I used to have weird problems when I would ssh from my Win98 machine to a Linux box. Once I copied the Cygwin terminal definition over, my problems largely went away. The standard terminfo database should support Linux terminals out of the box nowadays. There probably isn't a good way to get rid of the lag, but try the -C option to ssh. That uses compression which might help. When I connect to my server in Germany, the lag is terrible, but -C helps slightly. There is also a setting in Speakup to help with this. In Windows, it's called cursor delay, but I'm not remembering what Speakup calls it. Look in /sys/accessibility/speakup for something having to do with time or delay and try adjusting that. Also, a lot of it depends on how busy Shellworld is at the time you connect. If there are lots of users, the lag will be worse and there isn't much you can do about it. If you're the only user, you should notice minimal lag. If you have an account on freeshell.org, try that as well. It also has some lag but it would be interesting to see if the lag is as bad or not. Remember that you can always use ^L to redraw the screen and that sometimes helps as well. On 6/21/2013 7:25 PM, Hart Larry wrote: > Ok, I login to Shellworld from a Debian system with a 12MB AT&T > Uverse connection. Over the last couple of years I had to switch from > ssh to telnet, as for some reason, with Speakup, there is some > sluggishness while cursoring. But now even telnet has this behavior, > while logging in another Linux machine which has much better network > conductivity, I have an easier time. editing without any lag. On > Shellworld I can hit backspace a number of times and the beeping is > spiraticly sluggish. So, first I wonder if there are either other > telnet options I can try, or would their be another protocol which may > react faster? Next, I notice while at a plain telnet prompt, unlike > actually at a site, I cannot use an up-arrow as it says a letter a or > b. I sure don't have this issue in ncftp, history works normally. > Thanks so much in advance for suggestions Hart > > _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing > list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list - -- Have a good day, Tony Baechler tony@xxxxxxxxxxxx -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJRxSouAAoJEPrAuJWnLe0yKVEP/3T8cnqz4OpCQRTP5SJ/LOIZ 6EqGfg4czEofdfhatBqB6tlFN5DQQkounezYoelJ5fDSoR6jrxnPifOIAHKrsa0f wCB9GAAMtnwjWKMJttM2U0lcdYoFDqrIr0nxEi+549XQKcVJNbCeyc7y7WytQuQ5 p2uiLzGnpD/nGofL/tZuvz5eZswHXDYtd8zh3+F0mBnUsXgpKjVI+9k0wFOOCsgX XoFc3Z7NABH0Ea3mrG50qDru25Y29NRR69+O5ibyDeorpawhKIbqEBG+FUiwlkVC ybQLvICQUDoSgcTxkq067ZdLu5ZvSWMe9xbvLysKebAP+ovAUl70kFNQHFx7JBkq 3Coea+wt2RI9Xv+tNETapdcVf1k8uRCylkYGJLU3r4uZJe+6IfV4qTl7Q9TyzZ12 X2Y779O7pdX3osYHpjUA/V9a523AJXJpf0Gcyjhn786ObzHoWpxdhLaGQs3dz9I9 Li4IAK8rDjZbvD0ntVajV2+4XX6Y73lQ1MWcsNLxSiLF49T+HdPr/I1WnuypaOjx 6V8Sqn7Ast7JGK4mLy5VngexS6AlxK/XuZBbgxJhkCZg7RaceLwuAYGnxlgBeWeV sd57JkFluh4iNW5CBF3nTZtuF7fXUizNbiYAcdQ38GmN/Y8+vrFdU0pCPMiXJkv9 vAJKbXcETncs1sRD9TjH =EMsy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list