Thank you Christopher, Yes I would greatly appreciate your instructions. Any help to get me off and running would be greatly appreciated. I am really struggling to learn Linux for the reason I am running it on my Mac book. There is no insert key so I am unable to do the functions which require the use of the orca modifier key. I read there is a way to re map it but I cannot get to the place I do that. Ok I wont lie I cannot find anything on Linux yet. I have figured out how to get the settings open I believe by pressing ALT+F2 I think but that is it. Where would I find Orca settings? Is there a way to open them? I thank you for your help in advanced. I will eagerly wait for your instructions. On Jan 28, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chaltain@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Emacspeak isn't installed on Ubuntu by default, so unless you installed > it yourself, it won't be there. It will run on Ubuntu 12.04 though. > > You could use Emacspeak instead of Orca, if you're proficient with the > command line, but I myself don't see them as competing technologies, but > rather complimentary technologies. I have Orca running on my desktop, > which gives me access to many of the GUI applications running on my > desktop. I run Emacspeak in a console for most of my file management, > editing and shell/command line needs. > > Will you be using Emacspeak with Voxin or eSpeak? I could send you some > instructions, but I'll need some time first. Also, are you using a > 32-bit or 64-bit version of Ubuntu? > > On 28/01/13 17:06, Bryan Duarte wrote: >> THank you everyone for providing me with some feedback. I understand what EmacSpeak is but does it work on ubuntu 1204? I am pretty sure I saw EmacSpeak in the system prefs of my ubuntu. I could be wrong though. So to sum it up can I use eMacSpeak instead of Orca? Also how do I bring up the settings of the OS to find out if EmacSpeak is installed already? >> On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:53 AM, Christopher Chaltain <chaltain@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> Think of it as a self voicing application, so it'll work whether you run >>> it in the console or on the desktop. >>> >>> On 28/01/13 05:19, Jude DaShiell wrote: >>>> Run it and you go into the emacspeak environment and remain in the >>>> emacspeak environment until you shut emacspeak down. I think a version >>>> of emacspeak has been built that will run on mac's and use the mac's >>>> resources to speak. >>>> >>>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, mattias wrote: >>>> >>>>> how do you use emacspeak in graphical environment? >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 11:06 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: Orca or EmacSpeak >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> emacspeak provides its own environment not a text console. You can run a >>>>>> text console from emacspeak when necessary and doing so puts all of the >>>>>> power tools in your hands Linux has to offer so it's an advantage to learn >>>>>> especially if you're going for a real Linux sysadmin job or doing any >>>>>> other real Linux work since most of the young sighted competitors you have >>>>>> will focus primarily on the graphical user interface. This trend with the >>>>>> younger Linux workers gets older managers frustrated when younger workers >>>>>> either can't do something at all or take too long to do it because they're >>>>>> using the mouse and the graphical user interface when some of the older >>>>>> managers can do tasks with the text console and keyboard in half the time >>>>>> or less.On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, mattias wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> i think emacspeak are only for text console >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Duarte" <bryan0731@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> To: <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 3:16 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Orca or EmacSpeak >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am new to Linux and am having some trouble getting to learn the OS due >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> the Orca screen reader. I will start off by letting you know I am on a >>>>>>>> Mac >>>>>>>> book running Mountain Lion. I am running ubuntu 1204 in VMware fusion. >>>>>>>> To >>>>>>>> this point I am only able to preform commands which do not require the >>>>>>>> Orca >>>>>>>> modifier key. I read that the Orca modifier key is the "insert" key, but >>>>>>>> Mac >>>>>>>> does not have an "insert" key. I have read several different posts of >>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>> describing a few key commands which simulate the insert key but none >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> worked for me. I also was told I can set my Orca configuration to >>>>>>>> "laptop" >>>>>>>> and then the "caps lock" key will act as the modifier, and yet again I >>>>>>>> am >>>>>>>> unable to do this. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now to the question at hand. Does anyone have some experience with this >>>>>>>> issue who can help me get it working? If not can someone please let me >>>>>>>> know >>>>>>>> if EmacSpeak is a better option for linux? I have read lots of good >>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>> about emacSpeak but honestly have no idea how to switch from Orca to >>>>>>>> emacSpeak. I am not bias to either screen reader I am just looking to >>>>>>>> learn >>>>>>>> linux well enough to write some programs, use the terminal, and call it >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> familiar OS. I would greatly appreciate any help. >>>>>>>> Bryan Duarte >>>>>>>> 1 Corinthians 9:24 Don't you realize that in a race everyone runs, but >>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>> one gets the prize? 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So run to win! >> Arizona State University Applied Computer Science Undergraduate >> Twitter: @blindambitions >> Skype: bambryan >> "Blind Ambitions" >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> > > -- > Christopher (CJ) > chaltain at Gmail > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list Bryan Duarte 1 Corinthians 9:24 Don't you realize that in a race everyone runs, but only one gets the prize? So run to win! Arizona State University Applied Computer Science Undergraduate Twitter: @blindambitions Skype: bambryan "Blind Ambitions" _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list