Re: msn on linux

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Actually you can filter out libraries though you'll need to use grep in combination with apt-cache and less to do that. apt-cache search msn | grep -v "lib" | less <cr> may shorten the list some, and you could even add another instance of grep in there with grep -v "graphical" to perhaps really optimize the list.


On Wed, 12 Mar 2008, Daniel Dalton wrote:

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008, Tony Baechler wrote:

 Daniel Dalton wrote:
> And are you saying questions like; "Does anyone know of a good whatever > for linux?"
>  Replacing whatever with what you want is not ok?
>
 No, but the great thing about free software is that you can try every
 different program out there just with "aptitude install whatever." I often
 install two or three similar programs until I determine what I like and
 what works for me. If program 1 doesn't work, I go to program 2, etc. If I
 tried every possible option and have yet to find anything I like, I ask
 here. Just trying one program is a start but not enough. If you have a
 good reason why

Hi,

Sorry if I sounded agressive. I was trying to say that I had tried tmsnc, however, the rest looked like graphical apps to me and libraries.

But yes I should probably look a little harder next time or search for stuff on google to if apt doesn't give me what I want.

And your right it can't hurt to try lots of different software.

So sorry about that.
But I didn't find a message with the line
apt-cache search msn
terribly useful since I had stated in my post I did a search through apt so I obviously have some idea with apt searches.

So sorry if my message was a bit abrupt, I didn't intend for that at all.

 system, that's of course different but I didn't see any of those things in
 your original post.

Yes, ok.


> > either one, but at least I > bothered to look. As I said, I saw several text
> >  mode MSN clients in my very brief search and I didn't even look at
> > So your now saying I didn't bother?



 No, I'm saying that it's a good start but it didn't go far enough. OK,
 "aptitude purge x" and "aptitude install y" would have been better in
 terms of looking.

Of course. But a lot looked like graphical apps to me like gaim for example.


 I don't know, maybe it's just me, but it seems to me that if a distro
 supplies thousands of packages and a good and easy way to search through
 them, people should try all possible options until they find what they
 like before giving up. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with asking
 for help,

Sure.

 and of course accessibility is a concern, I'm just saying that looking at
 one thing and giving up is hardly bothering. Maybe I'm wrong and am being
 too

Yes your right I should try more and I probably didn't look terribly hard, but as I said libraries and stuff that I saw wasn't exactly what I wanted.
I am now using pebroc and that is working nicely for me.
(Its not in the repo.)

 judgmental. I'm sure others will chime in if they disagree with me. If I'm

Your not. And your correct.
And yes I will look harder next time.

 wrong, I'm sorry and I'll either shut up or try to be more helpful in the

No, most of your replies have been very helpful. I was just a bit disapointed with a message containing
"apt-cache search msn" when I had already done this.
But yes please continue to help, and I'm sorry if I sounded abrupt and for asking instead of looking!

 future. Obviously Daniel thinks that I'm not being fair from his post and
 maybe he's right.

Well I wouldn't say that exactly, but as I said the first message wasn't that helpful and I think it should be ok to ask about good applications with speakup on this list. But your right in saying that you might as well test lots of different software.
And I will do this nextime.
So sorry about not looking and next time I will look for longer.

And your posts are always helpful even though I may not think so sometimes so please continue to help, because 99% of the time you answer the question or give the answer the person was looking for. And I guess 1% of the time with anyone sometimes there message isn't as helpful as the other 99% but that rarely happens.
So thanks for the help and thanks for all the suggestions.
And please keep helping because as I said your help is really good And I really appreciate it.

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