Re: Linux without sighted help

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Check the file size first, if it's larger than 2k it's a binary file and this won't work.



On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Kristoffer Gustafsson wrote:

Hello!
Oh no, I've had a dos boot floppy, with my screen reader on all the time.
Now I'm getting a bit angry, if I only had known this. I had it with loadlin on so that I could boot linux with different kernels.

I've never done this with a cd, but I think it would work if you use loadlin and load with a vmlinuz kernel on the cd and then install linux onto the machine.

/Kristoffer
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: Linux without sighted help


 If the windows xp msdos.sys file is about 2k in size then yes you can.



 On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Kristoffer Gustafsson wrote:

>  Can you do that even with win xp?
> > I didn't believe that. > > /Kristoffer > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell" > <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
>  Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 7:30 PM
>  Subject: Re: Linux without sighted help
> > > > If it's a dell machine push down and hold the delete key right after > > you > > turn the machine on. You won't get windows coming up but will get > > into > > cmos. Other things to do. Change msdos.sys file on that box so you > > stop > > off in dos first. There are dos screen readers free for download > > that > > will work with hardware synthesizers and that way you get more > > control > > over your equipment. I did this a long time ago, maybe get sighted > > help > > to do this too it's not hard. Run in dos and type cmd attrib +w > > msdos.sys > > and hit return. Then use notepad to edit msdos.sys and change > > BootGui=1 > > to BootGui=0 then save the file as a text file and in another dos > > command
> >   session cmd move c:\msdos.sys.txt c:\msdos.sys and then reboot the
> > machine. Dos comes up and everything goes quiet so type win and hit > > enter > > to go into windows until you can get a hardware screen reader and a > > screen
> >   reader program for it.
> > > > > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Imbar Golt wrote: > > > > > I believe there is a cd boot somewhere only windows comes on first. > > > So there is no option but to use sighted help. > > > > > > Thank a lot, > > > > > > imbar > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell" > > > <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >   To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > >   Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 8:16 PM
> > >   Subject: Re: Linux without sighted help
> > > > > > > > > > No, on that score you're really out of luck. The boot sequence > > > > should > > > > always have cd's in it somewhere otherwise nobody can protect > > > > the security
> > > >    of that computer.  Now, what happens if some virus installs and
> > > > successfully blocks access to your cmos? I'll tell you what > > > > happens, it's > > > > time to throw that computer and all the equipment and software > > > > that came > > > > with it in the garbage because at that point, not even the best > > > > sight on
> > > >    the planet can help you.
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Imbar Golt wrote: > > > > > > > > > Please I need something that won't boot from a CD, since I don't > > > > > have sighted help to change the boot sequence. If there is any > > > > > distribution or virtual consol that can work under windows or > > > > > boot when Windows is already on the computer? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Imbar > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell" > > > > > <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > To: "Linux for blind general discussion" > > > > > <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >    Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 7:06 PM
> > > > >    Subject: Re: Linux without sighted help
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.grml.org/ has an iso file for download. It's a > > > > > > livecd that can > > > > > > also be used to install linux if you like it. Try booting > > > > > > and when the > > > > > > disk stops for a few seconds type grml swspeak then hit > > > > > > return. If you > > > > > > have a sound card with active speakers you'll hear a > > > > > > message saying grml > > > > > > finished booting and telling you to type swspeak again. > > > > > > This is only > > > > > > necessary if linux isn't installed on the hard drive. Type > > > > > > swspeak again
> > > > > >     and you'll have speech.
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Imbar Golt wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, I tried that but it did not work, neither way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Imbar > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "krishnakant Mane" > > > > > > > <krmane@xxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > To: "Linux for blind general discussion" > > > > > > > <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > >     Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 2:40 PM
> > > > > > >     Subject: Re: Linux without sighted help
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 26/01/2008, Imbar Golt <imbar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >      Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know of a way to boot Linux without sighted > > > > > > > > > help or a live cd? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes, Ubuntu live cd for gutsy (7.10) works pritty > > > > > > > > good. > > > > > > > > after you put the cd inside and start booting, keep > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > hand to the cd > > > > > > > > rom drive and the moment it stops vibrating, press f5 > > > > > > > > then number 3
> > > > > > > >      and press enter 2 times.
> > > > > > > >      the system will boot with the orca screen reader.
> > > > > > > > just in case you fail to do so, let ubuntu boot and > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > press alt +
> > > > > > > >      f2 and type orca.
> > > > > > > >      regards,
> > > > > > > >      Kk
> > > > > > > > >      Thanks,
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