Well, folks, it looks like Oralux just worked right out of the box. When I boot up the CD, the rooster wakes up without any help needed and the system appears sane. I have not yet had time to install it on the hard drive so I don't know how that will go, but first I need to tar some files off of that drive for safety's sake before erasing all that Windows stuff and giving it a whole new outlook, so to speak. Thanks to all of you for your help and suggestions. I will stay with the grml list in case that problem gets fixed because I would have much rather installed Debian. One observation. I thought that NTFS file systems would mount read-write these days. If I use a command like mount /dev/hda1 /mnt it mounts just fine and one can see all the Microsoft files, etc. If you try to write to that drive, you get an error that it is a read-only file system even though /etc/mtab shows it to be mounted RW. This is a bit off-topic for this list, but I was a little surprised. My plan had been to make a tar ball of the drive on the same drive. If you do that, tar just complains about not tarring the archive which is a wonderful thing because that would make an infinite loop and eat up all available space. The drive presently is only about 30% full so the tar ball can coexist with the other files. Anyway, thanks for all your help. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list