Bruce, As a matter of fact, I have been thinking of starting a list on freelists.org . It would be called blindmac . Anyone who is interested should write to me offlist. Thanks for the info and the links. it does seem to me that $500 is a bit much to charge prospective developers. Getting NFBtrans to wor at the OSX comcand line should not be difficult. I am working on a braille translation and back-translation library, and I have already ported it to the Mac. John On Sat, Mar 19, 2005 at 01:40:19PM -0500, Bailey, Bruce wrote: > Hi John. Remember me? You might prefer I let someone else answer. > > > Does anyone know about such a list? > > If not, does anyone care to volunteer to start such a thing? > The demand will be high I think after Tiger (OS X 10.4) ships with its integrated screen reader Voice Over. > > If the answer to both questions is no, what public lists (egroups, geocities, etc.) have a good reputation for being accessible? > I have used the Apple discussion boards, but not with a screen reader. > http://discussions.info.apple.com/ > > > Will the Tiger release of OS X support braille access? > > IMHO this question should be directed towards the Braille device manufacturers. For $500 they could have been working with the pre-release of Tiger for about a year now. For another $500 they could buy a brand new Mac. They really have no good excuse for not having this on their radar. > http://developer.apple.com/macosx/tiger/tigerkit.html > > Any device that work with BSD Unix on USB ports should at least work at the OS X command prompt. > I am not sure how useful this is. Some day I hope to try to get NFBtrans working under the OS X command prompt, but I have just not been able to make the time. > > The Macintosh has since Jaguar (OS X 10.2) included an intriguing check box option under the Universal Access System Preference for "Enable Access for assistive devices". My early inquiries about this lead me to believe that this is a hook primarily for dynamic Braille displays. It is unchecked by default, as I understand it, because to do otherwise is a security risk. All this is way over my head technically. In the few short years since this option first appeared I have NOT heard even rumors of any developer taking advantage of the feature. Maybe this could be made to work with brailletty? > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- John J. boyer; Executive Director, Chief Software Developer Computers to Help People, Inc. www.chpi.org 6033 Monona Drive, suite 205; Madison, WI 53716 _______________________________________________ Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list