Tommy, That combination of space and right thumb, followed by pressing the easy Access bar down works for setting Grade 2. I don't remember anything about this in the manual. What is it called? I am still trying to turn off speech. I go to the setup application, pick voice, go to speech active, press enter to remove the check mark, then control-q and y. no effect. It still insists on gabbing all the time. Removing the check mark doesn't even affect the settup menu. If others on the list would like this d`iscussion taen offlist, let me know. However, the Elba does use Linux. As a Linux user, I want root access, so I want to know the default root password. Thanks, On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 12:26:52AM -0600, Tommy Craig wrote: > Hi John, > > When you are in the application set things the way you want them. > Then press the right thumb key and spacebar. release them and within 5 > seconds press the easy access bar all the way down. This saves your settings > for that application. > > You do not need to be root to save settings. If you change settings in the > setup menus, either escape until you get prompted to save changes or just > enter control-q and you will be prompted to save changes. Type a y and wait > about 20 seconds. > > Tommy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blinux-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:blinux-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of John J. Boyer > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 12:05 AM > To: Linux for blind general discussion > Subject: Re: Experiences with Elba > > > Tommy, > > So how do I change the settings for individual applications? When I go > to tools and then setup, I get the setup menu and submenus, but there > is no hint of setting things individually for different applications. > The manual says nothing about this. > > The Elba does have the su command, but the manual helpfully does not > give the default password. I really think I have to be root for changes > in setup to stick. > > Thanks, > John > > On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 10:38:16PM -0600, Tommy Craig wrote: > > Hi John, > > > > The address for the Elba group is: > > > > Elba-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Please note that the e in Elba is capitolized. The reason that > speech > > doesn't stay of is that each application saves it's settings > > separately. This is so you can have grade 2 in one application and not > > in another one or speech on in one application and not in the others. > > You can set items in the control center and they should stick unless > > you override them in an application. > > > > You can enter all the setup menus by typing t for tools and then s > > for setup. Under this menu you have a number of submenus for setting > > speech, braille, networking and much more. > > > > Tommy > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: blinux-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:blinux-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] > > On Behalf Of John J. Boyer > > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 9:10 PM > > To: blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: Experiences with Elba > > > > > > The Elba is indeed an interesting Linux Braille PDA. However, it takes > > some getting used to. So far, I haven't been able to set it to my > > preferences. In particular, I can't get it to stop talking. This is > > very irritating, since even with my cochlear implant turned off i can > > feel the vibrations. Also, if I switch it to Grade 2, it promptly goes > > back to computer braille when I change to a different application. I've > > tried turning off speech in the setup application numerous times, with > > no result. Maybe I have to be root to change the defaults, but there is > > no mention of this in the manual. > > > > I haven't been able to subscribe to the Elba mailing list. The address > > given here a few days ago doesn't seem to work. > > > > With all that, the Elba has a nice user interface. It is a good > > example > > of how the usability generally associated with a GUI can be built into a > > text-mode interface. > > > > John > > > > -- > > John J. boyer; Executive Director, Chief Software Developer Computers to > > Help People, Inc. www.chpi.org 6033 Monona Drive, suite 205; Madison, WI > > 53716 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > -- > John J. boyer; Executive Director, Chief Software Developer Computers to > Help People, Inc. www.chpi.org 6033 Monona Drive, suite 205; Madison, WI > 53716 > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > -- John J. boyer; Executive Director, Chief Software Developer Computers to Help People, Inc. www.chpi.org 6033 Monona Drive, suite 205; Madison, WI 53716 _______________________________________________ Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list