Hi all, I found that I needed to change the pass word for root so that I could access it directly at log in. I am now a happy camper. This reminds me of the days of zipslack when I had a gui and zipspeak running on the same system. Heck, It also reminds me of the shells since I cannot really access the unix side of osx except through ssh which I am happy to do for the moment. Johnnie Apple Seed _______________________________________________ Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list