Where can I ftp the latest versions of octave and raman's math program, and there manuals? What are their latest versions? How do their abilities differ? Do any such math programs include sonification? Which do the most simbolic menipulation, indefinate integration etc.? -- If you must quote me, please put your comments first. I have already listened to mine. I read email with speech. So it is not possible to scroll past the quotes without listening to them again, to quickly get to the new information. Thanks much again as always. Jim _______________________________________________ Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list