Cheryl, Possible low-tech solution to the signature issue. If you can produce a template file which when printed out looks more or less like their form, you could check (by asking someone?) how much space the file takes up on a printed page, and then having completed your version of the form by filling in a copy of your template and printing it out, you could use a straight-edge to physically sign the printed sheet under where you have already established the form finishes. Regards, Tim Pennick PS: You may be able to feel where your printed form finishes depending on the type of printer you use.